[quxpar]

The site in question has regularly been used as a place to coordinate doxxing and serious harassment. AFAIK no measures have been taken by the owners to remedy this, and thus they've forfeited their rights to run a website.

[1langisbad]

Doxxing and serious harassment (probably depending on how "serious" it is, IANAL) are crimes though? Why isn't there a court order to shut down the site? Why did the site die at the hands of Internet vigilantes instead of being properly executed after a trial? Is law enforcement inept enough that it needs help from random activists, coordinating a Twitter/Facebook/WhatHaveYou campaign to convince some influential people to act? Why the same influential people were not told to act by a court? There's something wrong here...

[concordDance]

> The site in question has regularly been used as a place to coordinate doxxing and serious harassment.

I have no way of verifying this and I suspect neither do you.

What I have seen is that the owners have explicit rules laid down that state that coordinating harassment is not allowed, which seems very much like a measure taken.

[HereIGoAgain]

Posting publicly, self-posted in many cases, information hardly counts as doxxing.

and as for harassment, let alone "serious harassment", 100% utterly false.. Even talking about interacting with people talked about is and has always been banned! Users downvote attempts as well. It's a gossip and documentation site, not a place for calls to action. "Look but never touch"

[gray_charger]

> ...and thus they've forfeited their rights to run a website.

You cannot forfeit a right. The right either exists or it doesn't exist. Anything that can be forfeited is a privilege. Free speech is a right, but using other people's hardware to do so (via hosting/CDN services) is a privilege.

[Veliladon]

Of course you can forfeit a right. If I commit a felony in the US as a US citizen I forfeit my right to vote. If I sell a copyright I've forfeited the right to monopolize that work.

Nevertheless, you have the right to free speech, just not a platform. The government hasn't made it illegal for Kiwifarms to have a website, it's just that nobody wants to be a part of hosting or distributing it. That's literally the right of free association at work.

[harimau777]

In most (all?) societies that I am aware of you can forfeit your right to personal autonomy and/or life by committing a crime.

Is your argument that we should not punish crimes with imprisonment or is it that people do not have a right to personal autonomy?

[josephcsible]

Did they break the law? If not, then they didn't forfeit any rights, since you don't forfeit rights by exercising them. If so, then they should have been shut down by the legal system, not via extrajudicial punishment.