[jef_leppard]

The way this entire thing has been run is a f*cking disgrace. Yes they have a business to run. Yes they need to do what they need to do to keep things healthy on that end, but these are PEOPLE we are talking about here. They have lives and families. The amount of contempt I have for Musk over the way he is treating them is unbounded. We used to think this guy was Bruce Wayne. Turns out he's Lex Luthor.

[buscoquadnary]

Wow laying off a large chunk of an unprofitable company is lex luthor evil? Guess the bar for super villain has become substantially lower.

[jef_leppard]

Layoffs are part of business yes (pretty much what I said in my parent post). What I have a problem with is the way this is being done. Forcing people to quit by dropping arbitrary deadlines without any notice? Notice of 84 hour work weeks? Sleeping in the office? Asking devs to print up their code? All this because he doesn't want to pay severance etc. I think that is hella f*cked up.

[PuppyTailWags]

Forcing people to work over weekends, 84 hour weeks, finding any excuse to make them quit or fire them "for cause" like making them print their code out physically? The end of the year is coming. It's supposed to be the holidays soon. Thanksgiving is in like 3 weeks. C'mon, dude.

[seanmcdirmid]

Lex Luthor would never make so many stupid comments on social media. Musk is more cartoon villain than comic book villain. But I think the Joker once lampshaded that a CEO was more evil than he would ever be. Its probably somewhere in the Even Evil has Standards trope (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvenEvilHasStand...).

[metabagel]

He hasn’t communicated with the employees. He has left them twisting in the wind. They’re finding things out from his tweets instead of through proper company channels. It’s unprofessional and disrespectful.

[gonzo41]

I don't think you should diminish the great work of Lex Luther by associating Musk with him. Musk is not a genius, he just got rich with first mover advantage in Online banking (paypal) and disrupting a lazy industry (Cars but electric!).

The real measure of Musk will be seeing how well this all goes. If he's really is smart, this may work. But by all accounts we're seeing what taking 44 billion dollars and setting it on fire looks like.

[AYBABTME]

Turns out this guy who consistently beat all odds and pushes progress further than imagine, is just completely randomly involved in all these events, as CEO but that's just a detail. And obviously he's a fraud, there's someone else all this time really running the show, probably a lizard.

Elon is brash, tough to work with and doesn't behave in upstanding ways, and I don't think I'd want to work for him; he's a jerk. But all this doesn't make wishful denial become true.

[COGlory]

>Musk is not a genius, he just got rich with first mover advantage in Online banking (paypal) and disrupting a lazy industry (Cars but electric!).

I'm not saying he's a genius, either, but first mover and disruption aren't exactly without foresight.

[rootusrootus]

> first mover advantage in Online banking (paypal)

That's being generous. He's not a paypal founder. He started a different company, which merged a couple times into becoming part of paypal.

[parkingrift]

Yes he became the worlds richest man by luck.

Incredible. The man isn’t smart. Tesla, SpaceX, and Starlink were just luck. And he was lucky with PayPal.

No, Musk is only a genius if he does it with a fourth, fifth, or sixth business. Perhaps then he’ll graduate from lucky to fortunate.

[rybosworld]

Just to play devils advocate:

Musk more or less got trapped into a deal with Twitter that was largely based upon numbers that were fabricated by executives.

From his perspective, the way to salvage this mess is layoffs. Some of the previous executives (Parag) have committed fraud imo, and should face consequences. They won't though.

Lot's of twitter employees will suffer. To varying degrees, many of them played a role in the house of cards that is twitter.

[EFreethought]

Musk did not get trapped into a deal. He thought he was being cute and it blew up in his face.

First he was on the board, then he wasn't. Then he thought it would be funny to agree to buy Twitter for a price that had "420" in it, then the markets declined and he sued to get out of a contract nobody forced him to sign.

Either something changed recently in Musk, he has been hiding the fact that he has had a few screws loose for years, or both.

I guess most people just get depressed when they hit middle age. When you are wealthy, you can knock up one of your employees and buy a company on a whim.

[jef_leppard]

> Lot's of twitter employees will suffer

This is the only part of this I am speaking to because the rest is exactly what is happening. Musk messed up and now a whole lot of people are put in a terrible situation going right into the holiday season. It's unconscionable for one of the richest people in the world to behave this way.

[whymauri]

>Some of the previous executives (Parag) have committed fraud imo,

In what way?

[heartbreak]

Trapped into a deal? Are you serious? No one held a gun to Elon Musk’s head and told him to buy Twitter. He did that on his own accord.

He should have just left them alone. If the executives were so incompetent, he’d have gotten a better deal by waiting for them to fail. Or shorting the stock like a normal investor.

[raydev]

> Musk more or less got trapped into a deal with Twitter that was largely based upon numbers that were fabricated by executives

What numbers were fabricated?

[khazhoux]

Elon's takeover began 6 months ago, and he's never hidden his disdain for how the company is run. All those PEOPLE with lives and families would have been smart to take the hint and start interviewing instead of waiting to see if Elon would spare them.

[recursv_thnkng]

He made a joke offer and attempted to back out of the deal for 6 months straight. Nobody knew if it was going through or not.