One can provide feedback and encourage people to learn about more efficient coding practices without ridicule and comments like "my eyes are bleeding".
One certainly can, and should. However, if I have to chose, I'd rather there be room for people over-reacting than risk there not being room for polite suggestion.. I do believe that the occasionally harsh tone fosters a resilience and readiness to accept ones mistakes.
I don't like the way we're policing conversation, the bar for what's deemed acceptable is constantly raised, and while I agree with the general sentiment of "not being an asshole" I disagree with the growing tendency of virtue-signaling through condemnation and indignation in every sentence that I feel I'm being increasingly exposed to..
So, if I have to chose between grown men writing apology blog-posts for a random unthoughtful remark in a tweet, or the space where unthoughtful remarks in tweets are simply ignored.. I'll chose the latter.
> I'd rather there be room for people over-reacting
There is.
> I don't like the way we're policing conversation,
We aren't. We are having conversations about public posts.
> the bar for what's deemed acceptable is constantly raised,
That's good. I mean, I believe that the occasionally harsh tone fosters a resilience and readiness to accept ones mistakes.
Think of this as code review for words.
> So, if I have to chose between grown men writing apology blog-posts for a random unthoughtful remark in a tweet, or the space where unthoughtful remarks in tweets are simply ignored.. I'll chose the latter.
I don't get it. You choose the latter, which amounts to someone being "censored."
i.e. If I write something and no one reads it or it's ignored, does it really matter? It's not seen. It's not read.
But more importantly, you are okay with someone unprofessionally and childishly critiquing someone's code, but not the same being done with those same words?
And you are okay with someone writing something unprofessional and childish, but not those same people writing something professional and thoughtful?
I cannot fathom the leaps of logic it takes to make sense of all of this.
If you used a language that was good at X, and saw some code trying to do X in a language not suited to it, I could see "my eyes are bleeding" being a reasonable joke to make to other people who used your language and not the other. If the intent was to mock a language rather than a programmer that seems less dickish.
The brevity of Twitter means a lot of the context is missed, even now there's some debate and confusion about what they actually meant by these comments.
dusted|3 years ago
I don't like the way we're policing conversation, the bar for what's deemed acceptable is constantly raised, and while I agree with the general sentiment of "not being an asshole" I disagree with the growing tendency of virtue-signaling through condemnation and indignation in every sentence that I feel I'm being increasingly exposed to..
So, if I have to chose between grown men writing apology blog-posts for a random unthoughtful remark in a tweet, or the space where unthoughtful remarks in tweets are simply ignored.. I'll chose the latter.
Dudeman112|3 years ago
That's the thing. Usually the snark isn't followed by suggestion or anything useful at all
People being mean often do it for its own sake
jasonlotito|3 years ago
There is.
> I don't like the way we're policing conversation,
We aren't. We are having conversations about public posts.
> the bar for what's deemed acceptable is constantly raised,
That's good. I mean, I believe that the occasionally harsh tone fosters a resilience and readiness to accept ones mistakes.
Think of this as code review for words.
> So, if I have to chose between grown men writing apology blog-posts for a random unthoughtful remark in a tweet, or the space where unthoughtful remarks in tweets are simply ignored.. I'll chose the latter.
I don't get it. You choose the latter, which amounts to someone being "censored."
i.e. If I write something and no one reads it or it's ignored, does it really matter? It's not seen. It's not read.
But more importantly, you are okay with someone unprofessionally and childishly critiquing someone's code, but not the same being done with those same words?
And you are okay with someone writing something unprofessional and childish, but not those same people writing something professional and thoughtful?
I cannot fathom the leaps of logic it takes to make sense of all of this.
ZeroGravitas|3 years ago
The brevity of Twitter means a lot of the context is missed, even now there's some debate and confusion about what they actually meant by these comments.