[tifadg1]

I'm quite interested in learning which small central EU country has 150k outstanding programming jobs.

[ajuc]

According to EU Commission's estimates whole EU needs ~600 000 more programmers, with Poland (where I'm from) needing 50 000. This seems conservative to me, everybody's hiring and salaries grow pretty quickly.

You'd be earning about 50 000 USD per year as a senior developer, but that's plenty enough to live a very good life here. Outside IT people earn about 10 000 USD per year, food and services are very cheap, and there's a comprehensive welfare state.

[chrisBob]

When people talk about EU salaries do they typically mean pre-tax or post-tax.

[aagha]

We're a small startup, and looking for full-time, full-stack senior devs. Any chance you may any that you'd be open to connecting me with? - Zabe

[ausudhz]

With the fact that you got the demand/offer law not in your favor, these salaries will definitely go down.

Impressed to hear that Poland pays well for developers compared to other jobs. 50k for a senior role would definitely be a good salary even in other EU countries

[theCrowing]

If you come from FANG and you are good you can basically walk into a german tech place or even car manufacturers and get hired on the spot.

[spaceman_2020]

Yes, but your salary will be 1/2 of what you're used to.

My brother moved from FAANG to Atlanta to work for Home Depot. His comp went down from 400k to 140k. Which is still great for Atlanta, but there is no situation where a move from FAANG to any other company comes without wage deflation

[j-krieger]

You can currently do this as well. Turns out FAANG is popular because german tech pay is pretty garbage.

[Aeolun]

If you want to earn <€70k, interviews in the EU seem to be much, much simpler.

[delecti]

Those German car manufacturers are also taking advantage of ex-FAANG in the US.

[alvis]

Surely they're not all engineers, many are sales and admin positions. But the number is still large tho

[bombcar]

Obviously it’s the Vatican City State.

[neonnoodle]

Monte carlo skills finally going to pay off in Monaco

[raverbashing]

Latin is required and the use of BSD systems is forbidden though.

[rouxz]

Nobody said a word about programming jobs being outstanding lol

[forbiddenlake]

"outstanding" meaning "open", which is what GP referred to

[rco8786]

Same

[brink]

It sounds like HN satire.

[przefur]

Romania? Poland?

[ChuckNorris89]

Romania and Poland aren't exactly small by European standards, in fact they're some of the biggest by population and area. And Romania is not Central but Eastern European [1], so that's out.

Small and Central European would be Hungary, Slovakia, Czechia, Austria, Slovenia, Switzerland based on the most widely used definition of Central Europe [1]

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe#/media/File:Cen...

[Symbiote]

5th and 6th largest EU countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_Union_member_...

[AdrianB1]

Romania is Eastern Europe, not Central.