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breser | 3 years ago
* He was accused of passing a counterfeit $20 bill, we still don't know if Floyd created the bill or even knew it was counterfeit. For all we know he might have been an innocent victim of someone else. https://web.archive.org/web/20220409101419/https://www.nytim...
* Floyd did not die of the results of fentanyl overdose: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/04/16/fac...
* He died because a police officer knelled on his neck after he was already in handcuffs for 9 minutes and 29 seconds. https://web.archive.org/web/20210410114811/https://www.start...
* They had him in the car but then pulled him onto the ground and started kneeling on him. There were 4 officers present at that point. They did this despite calling for EMS. They did this despite Floyd saying he couldn't breath. They did this despite bystanders pointing out that he couldn't breath. The position continued even after he was clearly unconscious. They only got off his neck when EMS arrived and told them to. With EMS on site and asking for Fire Department help, the police didn't direct the Fire Department to Floyd, delaying their help for 5 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vksEJR9EPQ8
This behavior was so shocking that these officers were convicted of crimes for their behavior. It is VERY rare for police officers to be indicted, let alone tried and convicted for killing someone. I seriously doubt that they would have been tried and convicted if it weren't for the shocking video showing them kneeling on his neck for a long period of time.
I find it impossible to reconcile police refusing to do their jobs with a VERY rare conviction for misconduct that is so utterly shocking. If you don't want what happened to those officers to happen to you, simply don't kneel on someones neck for a long period of time. Carrying out a search warrant for a laptop is unlikely to result in that sort of situation. Simply because there's not really a good explanation for any of the behavior that resulted in Floyd's death on the part of the police.
Maybe they choose not to do their jobs for the other reasons you gave. But the facts of the George Floyd case do not support your conclusion.
knaekhoved|3 years ago
> Floyd did not die of the results of fentanyl overdose
I don't care what USA Today says - I suggest not placing much credence on claims mid-tier tabloids make. I am a former EMT, and I've seen people go into drug-induced respiratory failure. Even if you haven't, it's pretty obvious in this case. I implore you to actually watch the entire video of his death - it make my claims so obvious.
> They had him in the car but then pulled him onto the ground and started kneeling on him.
Because he escaped the car and was spazzing out, trying to escape, high as hell. Please watch the video.
> They did this despite Floyd saying he couldn't breath.
He was complaining he couldn't breathe before he was even on the ground (including when he was in the car), because he was experiencing drug-induced respiratory failure. Please watch the video.
> They did this despite bystanders pointing out that he couldn't breath.
Yes, this is what bystanders do in every ghetto neighborhood when the cops arrest someone. I've seen it 50 times. "He didn't do nothing, why are you arresting him, you're hurting him" - the eternal refrain of the ghetto bystander, regardless of the situation. Whatever the retarded bystanders were yelling conveys zero information.
> This behavior was so shocking that these officers were convicted of crimes for their behavior.
They were indicted and convicted as a sacrifice to avoid political backlash and rioting, not because they were guilty.
> a VERY rare conviction for misconduct
Doesn't matter how rare it is - it's rationally going to affect everyone's behavior anyway. Cf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect
> But the facts of the George Floyd case do not support your conclusion.
I guarantee you, if you watch the full, uncut video of the entire interaction (which, incidentally, are some of the only facts in play here, unlike claims by mid-tier tabloids), you will change your mind. You have been fed a false narrative, and it's not even difficult to prove this, but people for some reason refuse to spend like 15 minutes to watch the actual source of truth (presumably partially because venerable institutions like USA Today are doing their best not to show it to you).