Driving ICE manual is the whole package. Engine sound, the manual interaction, the little jerk when you miss the rev on shift, feeling of all the mechanics when changing the gear, feeling the vibrations thru the chassis when you accelerate, engine going braaaaAAAAAP and screaming like angry bees when going past VTEC threshold etc.
And the little details like how the notch on the first gear in my Civic ('07 Type-R) becomes lighter when the gearbox oil heats up and the whole rest of smaller idiosyncrasies of mechanical system.
For me the fun is man understanding and controlling machine, it is gone the moment machine pretends it's something it isn't. Not saying electric wouldn't be fun, just that I hope it will be its own type of fun instead of fake.
My car is a bit raw tho, spins to 8.6k RPM and have pretty hard suspension. Typical ICE car isn't exactly that "talkative" and is much more mushier around the edges.
But it is a bit funny to me that if you want high revving NA engine your options are 15+ years old Hondas or top of the line Porsche...
I’ve driven stick lots of my life and no it doesn’t. You press the pedal on electric and the smooth instant and seemingly endless application of power is one of the absolute best parts of it.
Don’t leave out the old Volkswagens! 7.5k on the tach on my 2.0 16v, very commonly pushed into mid 8s if you end up going to solid lifters and a set of cams.
I agree though, nothing quite like a small 4 banger revving the moon.
ilyt|3 years ago
Driving ICE manual is the whole package. Engine sound, the manual interaction, the little jerk when you miss the rev on shift, feeling of all the mechanics when changing the gear, feeling the vibrations thru the chassis when you accelerate, engine going braaaaAAAAAP and screaming like angry bees when going past VTEC threshold etc.
And the little details like how the notch on the first gear in my Civic ('07 Type-R) becomes lighter when the gearbox oil heats up and the whole rest of smaller idiosyncrasies of mechanical system.
For me the fun is man understanding and controlling machine, it is gone the moment machine pretends it's something it isn't. Not saying electric wouldn't be fun, just that I hope it will be its own type of fun instead of fake.
My car is a bit raw tho, spins to 8.6k RPM and have pretty hard suspension. Typical ICE car isn't exactly that "talkative" and is much more mushier around the edges.
But it is a bit funny to me that if you want high revving NA engine your options are 15+ years old Hondas or top of the line Porsche...
unknown|3 years ago
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Mistletoe|3 years ago
recyclelater|3 years ago
I agree though, nothing quite like a small 4 banger revving the moon.
twblalock|3 years ago
If you want to feel "connected" to a modern car you are out of luck. It won't happen. Adding fakeness to compensate is ultimately unsatisfying.
masklinn|3 years ago
I can absolutely tell you that. It sounds stupid and burdensome.
And in terms of effectiveness, it's basically homeopathy, or healing candles.