[tbrock]

Isn’t it more absurd that no vendors who support Linux make acceptable/comparable hardware?

[Firmwarrior]

Man, I'm surprised to hear that's the case

I assumed that Macs were mostly preferred because of their UX and relatively high-quality drivers/OS working well with sleep/wake. But if you put linux on there, you're giving all that up

Are there not any linux laptops out there with decent build quality and comparable perf/battery life?

[csomar]

I am using Dell XPS 17". It is relatively decent and you can have two harddrives (with a RAID setup but I was lazy to hack that).

It is certainly not a macbook but I do get 7-10 hours of battery life doing Rust development.

[foobarian]

> of their UX and relatively high-quality drivers/OS working well with sleep/wake.

The hardware integration UX is the good part of Macs. The UI UX is inferior to Linux IMO. I'm not referring to any one DE in particular, just the fact that they are so customizable. I wish I could have Windowmaker again on hardware as rock solid as my MBP (and all the integration bits solved, i.e. audio, wi-fi, plug-n-play, multiple monitors, etc.).

[tpush]

> Are there not any linux laptops out there with decent build quality and comparable perf/battery life?

None that I've ever seen, especially now compared to M1 Macs.

[ZiiS]

The are not any Windows laptops with comparable perf/battery life either.

[goethes_kind]

My lamentation goes well beyond Apple's business practices and I agree with you wholeheartedly. I am hoping Framework + AMD might get close sometime in the next couple of years.

[spookie]

They do make good laptops though? Look, let's not dive into the whole ARM vs x86 thing, it's not their fault.

[snvzz]

There's hope in RISC-V.

[2OEH8eoCRo0]

There is plenty of other hardware that is comparable. In fact- numerous laptops exceed them in a number of specs.

"Isn't it absurd that no vendors who support Linux are making Apple laptops?"

[halostatue]

No one else makes a laptop that has the power / thermal / battery / weight spec combination that Apple does, and none of them are ARM laptops, either.

To exceed the Apple M1 / M2 specs with anyone else’s hardware, you need to give up on other specs that matter greatly to those of us who care about things like that.

[pas]

Please recommend one (or more)! I want to buy a new laptop for years. Last time I got so fed up with the available ones I just bought two second hand laptops for cheap. A small XPS and a big Lenovo (as a backup and for compile heavy development work).

[astrange]

This was the typical post on Slashdot in 2005, but one would hope to notice you can’t judge a computer by “specs” anymore, especially not one that runs on battery power. The different specs fight each other; you can’t just increase them all.