[Alcor]

I’m not going to try to argue about which experience is worse because that’s difficult to quantify and I don’t actually think it achieves a lot.

If we can agree that ignoring nature, factory farmed animals don’t lead what we would call a fulfilling life, how can we justify bringing trillions of them into existence if we have alternatives? We don‘t have to go too deep into utilitarian rhetoric here, maybe it is better than nature, maybe if you follow that line of reasoning it wouldn’t be right to let animals suffer in nature or have children either. Anyway, I haven’t been able to justify eating meat to myself for as long as I was able to think along these lines.

[SapporoChris]

I think we need a definition for a fulfilling life. I think we also need to consider if it is an important criteria.