[johne20]

We built Roomlio entirely with svelte. Large app and many components. Having used react and angular on production apps in the past, I much prefer svelte. That being said, I am sick of framework fatigue and going forward I would probably choose raw web components and a simple template literal based template library like lit-html (not lit element). Write all the other bits ourselves.

[Majestic121]

If you are sick of framework fatigue, why not sticking with the framework you know ?

It seems to me that using raw web components you would end up writing your own custom framework, which would be yet another framework but with probably less support

[johne20]

Its a good question. I should have said I have "dependency fatigue". If we do stick with a framework, it would be Svelte, it has a great Dev UX. Over the years, I have came to the conclusion every dependency is a future problem, especially if pulled in w/o giving it much thought. It takes two hands to count the number of times we had to refactor an app because some client side router changed their API _again_. Writing a small client router that does only what we need is an event listener and switch statement. Javascript/CSS itself has came a long way in the last years as well. I have no plans of building yet-another-framework. Leverage what the browser gives us as much as possible, any annoying boiler plate can be a snippet or generator. Avoiding the complexity that a bundler adds is also a bonus. Tucking logic away in dependencies, whether written by ourselves or others can complicate things.

I am a founder first, and a developer second. My biggest goal is to build products that solve problems and load extremely fast and are as lightweight as possible. The less tech involved the better.

Lastly, this is just one person's opinion, and I am often wrong.

[oblio]

> It seems to me that using raw web components you would end up writing your own custom framework, which would be yet another framework but with probably less support.

Come on, why even ask this, you already know the answer.

Writing frameworks (or text editors, or...) is fun, and the original dev will be long gone when the warts of the framework become obvious and drag down the project (5+ years from the initial launch date).

[esperent]

Have you considered open sourcing the component library? I feel like lack of this kind of tooling is one of the main things holding Svelte back.