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dgroshev | 3 years ago
They have an empty cookie cutter website https://westlondoncitylets.co.uk/our-work.html and its owner has an empty linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/idris-anjary-24000b171/
The same guy owns Tokenized Properties Ltd which is an empty husk of a company https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/o... and shares its address with West London City Lets Ltd
However, they do have another cookie cutter website selling that "development opportunity" https://tokenized-properties.com/ and repeating the $1.25m price tag
According to the title (and corroborated by the entry on mattereum) the only land in it is the one I marked in red https://imgur.com/a/5h6c8Zi — it's literally a cliff, plus the title talks about right of way on the paths marked there for the next twenty years, so it's impossible to build on
This right here just perfectly encapsulates everything wrong with the crypto industry, I'm very disappointed to see Vinay openly defending this sham
leashless|3 years ago
2) we have an independent valuation on file for the land at >1M. I wanted to reconfirm this with a member of my team before replying with specifics here, which you read as “he’s being evasive.” I was waiting for data.
The full documentation stack for the land is in the Asset Passport linked from the OpenSea listing.
If you want access to the documents email me and I’ll see about getting you an NDA and putting you in touch with the seller - they may or may not choose to satisfy your curiosity.
Thank you for your diligence.
dgroshev|3 years ago
Reading through a sibling subthread with phphphphp, I just can't understand how you can tell that with a straight face. What "complex deal"? What "transaction fee"? The title literally says "last sold for", so unless you're saying the transaction involved elaborate tax evasion designed to hide the real price that's what it was sold for.
Then there is the other party in this $1m+ transaction that's supposed to be serious. Someone called Idris Anjary, whose only claim to fame on internet is a bunch of press releases for this deal, before that they're just a normal self employed person helping people get planning permissions for minor renovations [1] and building sheds [2] while operating from an office over an off licence [3]. All their companies together never saw more than one hundredth of the money you're saying that deal is worth.
Come on, let's be serious for a second. Either it's a sham, or the actual purchase and the person and the company doing it are just fronts, which is not exactly confidence inspiring.
Edit: btw, your environmental survey is off, the mini map on page 3 makes it clear the report is about the larger plot of land, not the part of it included in the sale. The Southern Water report is very likely wrong too, it says there's a public sewer there but the only connection on the map is from the larger plot.
[1]: https://planning.islington.gov.uk/NorthgatePublicDocs/004225...
[2]: https://www.activearchitecture.co.uk/portfolio/outbuilding-o...
[3]: https://goo.gl/maps/NDdM5og2Sh6EvXK68
[4]: https://passport.mattereum.com/West.London.Lets.01/01_Identi...
phphphphp|3 years ago
The land registry does not list "transaction fees" and neither do auction houses. If the land was indeed purchased for a large amount of money, the buyer (who is now the seller) would need to have purchased it... either in cash, or with a mortgage. There's no mortgages outstanding for the company (per companies house) and the company has no money.
I'll be charitable and assume you're just a fool: you've been played by your property agency partners, and the "member of your team" is of course, I'm sure, the person who provided the valuation from their "independent" valuer (because they're the property expert after all).
You can go on rightmove or an auction website right now and see comparable land available for <£100k. The basis of your defence was that of course the land is worth a lot because land in the UK is worth a lot but that's just not true, the only place where parking spaces sell for more than £7,000 is in London: in 75%+ of the country, you could buy 1 acre of land for £7,000.
The value of unused land for sale is a function of the amount of realisable value, for example, if there is a piece of land with planning permission for a 5 bedroom house in an area where a 5 bedroom house sells for £1,000,000, the price of the land would be something like £1m - (cost of building a house) - (some adjustment for the risk borne by the builder which becomes their profit), e.g: £500k.
If your 1.72 acres of beach front land is worth close to £2,000,000 that would mean there is much more than £2,000,000 realisable value for an owner of the land. Please, think through how you could conceivably realise millions of pounds of value from a piece of land that you are unable to build on.
Land in the UK is plentiful, the reason that a small proportion of land here is expensive is because only a small proportion of land is suitable for development and has permission for development. You could buy acres and acres of land anywhere in the UK for the price of 1 months rent in London... because the land is undevelopable, because you'll never get permission to develop.
The idea that an acre of beachfront is worth millions, when it has much less than a million worth of realisable value, is absurd. You're a business man, write a business case for this land.
If £7,000 was a "transaction fee" then is this other auction, with a listed sold price of £130,750, a transaction fee of £130k for this piece of land? And if so, is this land worth (130,750 / 7000) * 1,900,000 = £35 million?
https://www.cliveemson.co.uk/properties/237/15/