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xionon | 3 years ago

The apartment analogy doesn't quite work, as the scanning only happened with photos that were going to be uploaded to iCloud.

It wasn't like constantly monitoring your private residence, more like setting up a breathalyzer checkpoint on the way to the freeway.

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magicjosh|3 years ago

Fixed:

Your apartment complex decides they don’t want to be party to anything illegal. Just in case, they set up a police precinct in the lobby. They set up hidden cameras in the lobby, the hallway leading to your apartment, and the balcony of your apartment. "All public spaces of course" the crowd consents. And if their AI model detects anything suspicious, they send the video to the detective. Because you aren’t doing anything illegal, you have nothing to worry about, right?

infotogivenm|3 years ago

You’ve just described every photo upload service in America, although my understanding was Apple would use a list of hashes of known bad content, not an “AI” as google does.

Everyone scans for CSAM. I am not conjecturing on the ethics of scanning photos here, I am suggesting that moving from server- to client-side scanning had no effect on any of the things you are ranting about. Hence why I do not understand the outrage.

> Working for me means not having software designed to report me to the police for how I use my device.

Let me fix it: “how I use iCloud Photos, a hosted service on Apple’s servers”.

thewebcount|3 years ago

Isn’t this literally done in most office buildings in the US and probably a lot of apartment buildings already? There are CCTV cameras everywhere in the US (and other countries).

nyani|3 years ago

Closer to scanning your vehicle for meth on the way to the freeway. Rather fraught analog either way perhaps.