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arglebarnacle | 3 years ago

Very funny to me that on the way out of the room Wittgenstein allegedly "clapped the two examiners [Bertrand Russell and G.E. Moore] on the shoulder and said, 'Don't worry, I know you'll never understand it.'"

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ska|3 years ago

That seems on-brand, if off-base, for Wittgenstein; so perhaps he did.

my-god-hn|3 years ago

Probably because it was a bunch of nonsense. Wittgenstein has no place in the same sentence as Bertrand Russell.

beezlebroxxxxxx|3 years ago

Wittgenstein is generally considered to be one of most important philosophers of the 20th century, if not the most important. Analytic philosophy has largely lost interest in Russell's works (Kripke was far more important and is generally considered the person who "cleaned" a lot of Russell's deadend projects), while analytic and "continental" philosophy still avidly discuss Wittgenstein's Philosophical Investigations, and the fallouts from that work were a profound reassessment and shake up of philosophy. Russell is probably more well known nowadays as a popularizer of certain ideas in philosophy, as a general interest and political writer, and as a philosopher that typified the particular era in which he wrote, and less so for the actual philosophical ideas he sought to argue for. His History of Western Philosophy book for instance is quite famously bad.

Most people today would question if Russell should be put in the same sentence as Wittgenstein.

kleiba|3 years ago

"When Wittgenstein’s Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus was originally published—in German in 1921, and in English in 1922—Bertrand Russell was much better known. In fact, Wittgenstein relied on Russell to get his manuscript published in the first place, and it was Russell’s introduction to the Tractatus that encouraged publishers to consider accepting it at all. While Wittgenstein was grateful for Russell’s efforts, he was dismayed by his introduction, feeling that not even his former professor understood him. For Russell’s part, he was by this time exhausted by his relationship with the young Austrian who had been his student at Trinity in the years leading up to the First World War." [1]

[1] https://dearbertie.mcmaster.ca/letter/wittgenstein

max-ibel|3 years ago

I found the book "The world as I found it" by Bruce Duffy to be a fairly good read on this subject.