[michaelgrosner2]

"New Twitter policy is freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach.

Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted & demonetized, so no ads or other revenue to Twitter.

You won’t find the tweet unless you specifically seek it out, which is no different from rest of Internet."

How is this any different than Elon's stated goals from 3 weeks ago?

[adnzzzzZ]

A shadowban has the property that it's hidden from the user. Elon seems to want to make these kinds of actions transparent, like, for instance, deboosted tweets being visible as deboosted by their creator/other users, which is a pretty big difference. This difference is already visible in initial intent: Twitter hid what they were doing https://twitter.com/Twitter/status/1022658436704731136, while Elon is explicitly saying what he will do.

[veec_cas_tant]

That tweet is referencing this[0] blog post.

> We do not shadow ban. You are always able to see the tweets from accounts you follow (although you may have to do more work to find them, like go directly to their profile). And we certainly don’t shadow ban based on political viewpoints or ideology.

It specifically mentions factoring in user behavior:

>What actions you take on Twitter (e.g. who you follow, who you retweet, etc)

> How other accounts interact with you (e.g. who mutes you, who follows you, who retweets you, who blocks you, etc)

How was Twitter hiding this?

[0]: https://blog.twitter.com/official/en_us/topics/company/2018/...

[threeseed]

Problem is that there is a reason shadow bans exist.

It prevents nefarious actors from easily probing the limits of their content moderation processes.

It really is funny how Musk is just taking Twitter back to the start.

[username3]

> Twitter is working on a software update that will show your true account status, so you know clearly if you’ve been shadowbanned, the reason why and how to appeal

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1601042125130371072

[layer8]

The OP twitter thread doesn’t seem to be describing shadow banning.

[jdminhbg]

> How is this any different than Elon's stated goals from 3 weeks ago?

It is different because Elon's goals are at the level of tweets, and the screenshots here depict action at the level of users.

[agar]

Like Kanye West?

[rhaksw]

You're right it's not. I gather if you want to get two sides to talk who aren't talking, i.e. those who support that message vs. those who don't, you need to appeal to both.

[anigbrowl]

I think there might be a reason two sides aren't talking.

Conservatives: Rope, tree, journalist: some assembly required

Fuck Joe Biden

Fuck your feelings

These are all t-shirt slogans you can buy at conservative political events, and they're quite widespread rather than exceptional.

Also conservatives: Why am I being shadow banned, this is viewpoint discrimination!

To be clear, there are obnoxious people and outright assholes all over the political spectrum. But conservatives have made outrage and offensiveness their brand, in recent years. I remember being astonished and disgusted by the gleeful antagonism of Rush Limbaugh back int eh 1990s when conservative talk radio first became A Thing following the Reagan administration's abolition of the 'Fairness doctrine.'