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adnzzzzZ | 3 years ago

A shadowban has the property that it's hidden from the user. Elon seems to want to make these kinds of actions transparent, like, for instance, deboosted tweets being visible as deboosted by their creator/other users, which is a pretty big difference. This difference is already visible in initial intent: Twitter hid what they were doing https://twitter.com/Twitter/status/1022658436704731136, while Elon is explicitly saying what he will do.

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veec_cas_tant|3 years ago

That tweet is referencing this[0] blog post.

> We do not shadow ban. You are always able to see the tweets from accounts you follow (although you may have to do more work to find them, like go directly to their profile). And we certainly don’t shadow ban based on political viewpoints or ideology.

It specifically mentions factoring in user behavior:

>What actions you take on Twitter (e.g. who you follow, who you retweet, etc)

> How other accounts interact with you (e.g. who mutes you, who follows you, who retweets you, who blocks you, etc)

How was Twitter hiding this?

[0]: https://blog.twitter.com/official/en_us/topics/company/2018/...

HappyTypist|3 years ago

Twitter's visibility filtering wasn't based on "Your" User Behavior. It was based on what their moderation team decided to filter or not filter.

threeseed|3 years ago

Problem is that there is a reason shadow bans exist.

It prevents nefarious actors from easily probing the limits of their content moderation processes.

It really is funny how Musk is just taking Twitter back to the start.

etchalon|3 years ago

He'll end with the exact same practices, but with a different set of enemies.

r00fus|3 years ago

He's going to speedrun learning moderation from "first principles". And we get to watch him learn (just like when he started banning people who changed their handle to mock him).

charcircuit|3 years ago

It's already easy to check to see if you or your post is shadowbanned.

Khaine|3 years ago

I think the issue is not that this feature exists, but that it was abused to silence criticisms primarily from the right, while at the same time twitter denied this.

sigsergv|3 years ago

The main issue here is not that shadowban exist but fact that twtter officials explicitly denied its existence.

layer8|3 years ago

The OP twitter thread doesn’t seem to be describing shadow banning.