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burritas | 3 years ago

I don't disagree that it's exploitation, but I think you obscure a very complex problem with "nobody should be in such a weak position".

I'm not sure any economic or legal arrangement could do away with weak positions like that entirely.

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arglebargle123|3 years ago

UBI would go a long way towards pulling the very poor up out of the cycle of "I'll take whichever bad choice is least bad right now because I'm desperate."

luckylion|3 years ago

We don't have that cycle in Germany at all. Yet we don't see any of the promises of UBI materializing.

Zigurd|3 years ago

Re a very complex problem with "nobody should be in such a weak position".

It is only complex if avoiding questions about the value of human dignity, and the inability of laissez faire capitalism to deliver that, need to be avoided.

blacksqr|3 years ago

This is the crux of the issue. Most everything else herein is chin music.

SoftTalker|3 years ago

Also avoiding realities of human nature.

guerrilla|3 years ago

I think libertarian socialism does exactly that but in this case what's being argued for is JG (and UBI) which would help empower many, so we shouldn't be arguing against those things (not saying you are.)