[lzaaz]

It's impossible to make people vote to give themselves less money.

[bigfudge]

That’s factually incorrect. Cf most of Northern Europe for the past 60 years.

[bigfudge]

Edit - ah, I think you mean politicians? My comment still stands though. I don’t know the polling in the US, but spending on social programmes in Europe is broadly inline with public opinion, so the insunuation of a democratic deficit is misplaced, at least here.