[aritmo]

1. Presidential candidate, threat to Erdogan's chances for the Turkish elections next year.

2. Conveniently just jailed for two years.

[MonkeyClub]

Still, a smaller scale intervention than the 2016 made-up coup. Almost “surgical”, you could say.

Edit: Thanks to all the commenters for the additional info, it’s allowed me to expand my understanding of Turkish politics!

I see that what appeared to me as a “surgical coup”, guided by a government with ulterior motives, appeared so because of the very rapid and accurate response of the government - and of the people.

I still remember that appeal by Erdogan to the people via video call: within one minute, he divested the coup of any legitimacy, and motivated the Turkish people to defend their democracy.

This still doesn’t justify Erdogan’s subsequent pogrom, but it was really a superb live moment of political genius, with immediate popular response.

[kaanski]

Erdogan definitely took advantage of the aftermath of the coup to purge the military but the coup was not “made up”.

This was mostly a theory thrown around by western journalists who first tried to claim that a coup against Erdogan would be a good thing, a “liberal coup”. Followed by them pushing the idea it was fake.

I dislike Erdogan but hearing from my family’s experiences during the last coup in Turkiye I’ll take a democratically elected government I dislike over another military dictatorship.

I’m really disappointed in the media here in the west and the ideas they were pushing during that time.

Edit

Two extra points:

1. Turkiye has an extensive history of coups and general military intervention in politics which sets a precedent for this kind of coup attempt.

2. These sorts of claims are really akin to claiming 9/11 was an inside job. For some reason when it’s Turkiye being discussed what should be rightly identified as conspiracy theories become socially acceptable and viable in people’s minds.

[zapfranklin]

As someone who spent a very long night in the middle of Beyoğlu during the coup (e.g., small arms fire, sonic booms that shattered windows, run on ATMs) and extremely tense weeks that followed (e.g., gangs of men patrolling the streets, shouting takbir, and threatening less conservative citizens), it certainly felt real. I personally think the truth lies not in either binary option, but somewhere in between. A political event can both be organic in nature and carefully exploited by and for the benefit of the other side.

[Kukumber]

Made up coup?

There was clear signs of both CIA/Mossad involvement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

[cassepipe]

What are your sources on the coup being made-up ? I don't know much about it but it does seem credible given the turkish military coup history. Especially since traditionaly, the army has taken the side of the CHP, oppposing Erdogan.

[threesmegiste]

coup is not made-up. They killed more than 250 people live on air. corpses are in the middle. they shot at the citizen with snipers. Those who resisted the coup were screened by helicopters. They all have camera footage.