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The record-breaking -108.00 diopter myopia lenses (2016)

130 points| jsnell | 3 years ago |pointsdevue.com | reply

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[+] 542458|3 years ago|reply
Video showing the lenses in question:

https://youtu.be/Bd6V61EAIbk

(Sorry if these were in the OP link and I didn’t see them - the site is unusable on mobile)

I have no idea how this would work in a practical sense - the image minification would be massive. It would be like looking through backwards binoculars at all time.

[+] schiffern|3 years ago|reply
>the site is unusable on mobile

https://archive.vn/azRuX

>It would be like looking through backwards binoculars

The patient is a professional photographer, so he's probably used to that!

[+] Jenk|3 years ago|reply
> the image minification would be massive.

The mind boggles : - )

[+] superkuh|3 years ago|reply
I'm shocked at how thin those lenses are. I'm at -11.5 diopter and my edges are already >1cm thick. It sounds like it's one lens set entirely inside another one? Even using 1.8 index material the thinness is really impressive. I bet the chromatic abberation isn't, though. It's not 1-to-1 but generally the higher the refractive index the lower the Abbe number, the more colors get split apart.
[+] lucb1e|3 years ago|reply
The concentric rings of increasing blurriness remind me of a Fresnel lens. I'm no optician and always found the physics of light rays confusing as heck so the only words I understand from the wikipedia aricle are "A Fresnel lens can be made much thinner than a comparable conventional lens, in some cases taking the form of a flat sheet." Maybe someone else can tell whether that's what's being used here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_lens
[+] BrandoElFollito|3 years ago|reply
I am around -5 and it is stable; I think this is not far from the limit where wearing glasses starts to be annoying (chromatic aberration, distortions, ...).

I could consider lenses but I am always wondering how air conditioning and the fact that I cover my eyes with some plastic works long term (well, I am 52 so it may not be that of a concern, finally :)).

At some point I considered lasic surgery but wearing glasses still trumps the risk for me (this is really a personal opinion, I know people who are really happy with the change)

[+] paulpauper|3 years ago|reply
People who are very nearsighted have those weird sort of lens when viewed from the front it looks like they have a lens within a lens. The edges are very thick and it tapers down at the center.

here is what it looks like

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLloldZWgAAzrWz?format=jpg&name=...

[+] Someone|3 years ago|reply
From the slide show on this side, this is such a lens. Because of the high diopter, the center part is even smaller.

It seems they correct a bit for that by moving the glasses closer to the eye. That increases the angular extent of the lens a bit for the wearer.

[+] melony|3 years ago|reply
I think those are high index lenses, not normal lenses. I might be wrong though.
[+] userbinator|3 years ago|reply
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myopia#Degree more than -6 is already considered high, and this is more than 16x that. I wonder what the shape of his eyes is like for such an extreme case.
[+] delecti|3 years ago|reply
Yeah, I'm shocked at this. Before seeing this, my naïve guess for "how strong do you think glasses get" would have been in the range of -15 to -20. I've got a friend in the -8 ballpark and already thought that was surprising.
[+] Aulig|3 years ago|reply
Yes, above 5-6 diopters is considered high myopia, since that's where the risks for retinal detachment, glaucoma, etc. already increase significantly due to the elongated eyeball.

With high myopia, the vertex distance [0] starts to play a big role. Basically, as an example, if someone needs -10D glasses, the eye just has around -8.75D of myopia [1] (when wearing contact lenses). This gap becomes larger the higher the diopters are.

Using the formula on [0], I think this person has around -46.5D of myopia, but needs -106D glasses due to the vertex distance.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertex_distance [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertex_distance#/media/File:Ve...

[+] tim333|3 years ago|reply
Apparently "Jan Miskovic has had eye problems since he was a child. Her eye disorder is quite complex, not only suffering from myopia, she also suffers from amblyopia in both eyes, astigmatism, strabismus, and keratoconus. And every year, the ability to see from his eyes is always down 4 to 5 diopters." https://www.kaskus.co.id/show_post/614e138ffdaf1f458260070d/...

Which includes eyeball rugby shaped and bulging cornea.

[+] mutagen|3 years ago|reply
Photos and a video of the lenses in glasses at the bottom of the article. They're as strange as the extreme diopter would suggest but it's great to give vision back to Jan and allow him to continue his photography.
[+] sublinear|3 years ago|reply
The web dev needs their eyes checked. The paragraphs of this article don't have word breaks for the mobile CSS.
[+] t-writescode|3 years ago|reply
I had relatively mild nearsightedness in the past. I look at those lenses and I'm having trouble even comprehending what the world would look like if you need a prescription like that. Is everything so out of focus it's all basically a singular colored blur? Or..?
[+] andy_ppp|3 years ago|reply
Does anyone have a picture, it’s hard to tell on mobile if there should be one as the site is just broken…
[+] throwawaygo|3 years ago|reply
I assume this is here to discuss the mobile experience.
[+] armatav|3 years ago|reply
This guy can practically see into the future with that
[+] m463|3 years ago|reply
Probably still a little shortsighted. Should be ok for any publicly traded company.
[+] timonoko|3 years ago|reply
Normal human lens is already +50. How is it possible to have +150 eye? Even if the lens is perfect sphere it cannot be +150. The focal length would be 7 millimeters.

Correction: The focal length of sphere = 3R/2. Assuming 2 mm lens radius, most extreme case would be 3 mm which means. +333 diopters. Now correct that.

[+] tim333|3 years ago|reply
I had a funny thing producing a focal length of about 7mm the other day. I had a vitrectomy where they take out the middle bit of your eye and put in a gas bubble instead which gradually dissolves and is replaced by liquid. At one point when lying on my back so with the bubble against the lens it did that. You get some odd effects!
[+] otagekki|3 years ago|reply
At that point, replacing the lens with a one having a better focal length might be a good idea...
[+] almostnormal|3 years ago|reply
How did they come up with that prescription?
[+] treeman79|3 years ago|reply
Last time I looked into it. Glue. Gluing several lenses together. That was for around 70 diopter.
[+] Bud|3 years ago|reply
Jeez, and I thought my -12.5 prescription was bad!