R/ElonJetTracker

[superjan]

Wouldn’t a 24 hour delay be enough to satisfy the curious about Elon’s flying habits, without creating a possible security risk? I don’t know how real the risk is, but it is certainly not zero, as he is a controversial public figure.

[ArchitectAnon]

ADS-B information is broadcast unencrypted in real time from every civilian aircraft all the time. Anyone can receive this information with easily available equipment and tell everyone about it on a website. I don’t think it’s technically possible to censor this information. If you’re worried about someone shooting you down or whatever then you’re going to have to find a different way to counter this. Maybe fit countermeasures or buy another two planes and keep people guessing which one you are on. But it seems overly paranoid TBH.

[wizeman]

> Wouldn’t a 24 hour delay be enough to satisfy the curious about Elon’s flying habits, without creating a possible security risk? I don’t know how real the risk is, but it is certainly not zero, as he is a controversial public figure.

I agree with you, but I think the problem is that if you publish Elon's flying habits with a 24 hour delay, then you're effectively doxxing which airplane is Elon's jet, which would allow anyone to track Elon's jet in real-time for the next month, basically.

This could be somewhat avoided if Elon's jet received a temporary private aircraft identifier for every flight (instead of every month, which is how it works currently [1]).

But even then, if the airplane landed on a small airport (i.e. with few aircraft on the ground), it would still be possible to determine whether an airplane that is taking off is Elon's jet or not, based on the fact that Elon's jet landed there on the previous day and the destination for today's flight is [some place where Elon commonly flies to].

[1] https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/technology/equipadsb/privacy

[r721]

>[ Removed by reddit on account of violating the content policy. ]

https://old.reddit.com/r/ElonJetTracker/comments/zofevu/remo...

UPD Original post title via Google cache/Internet Archive:

>Jet IS LIVE, TOOK OFF from [place], at [time] local time (PST), traveling [direction]. Tail [registration code]

[jmeister]

Account suspended

https://old.reddit.com/user/Elon_jet_tracker

[blondin]

so, the subreddit is up but the account removed? that's very weird.

[isoprophlex]

Streisand Effect at its finest...

[TaylorAlexander]

https://mastodon.social/@elonjet

[01acheru]

Would it be fair game if Elon's name was removed? If it simply was "Tail #N628TS tracker", could Elon complain about it?

It seems that all flight data of a tail number is public, but the owner of said plane is private information. Is it correct?

[lopatin]

Could Musk successfully make the case that, despite this technically being public information, curating it in such a way to track him personally constitutes harassment?

[sofixa]

I don't really see this flying in front of a court. This information is easily accessible publicly literally one search to get the aircraft registration number and a second one on Flightradar24 or any of the other sites/apps to see where it is. It's not "technically public" as onsite paper records at your mayor's office, it's widely accessible online public.

[altacc]

Hmmm, at this rate we’re going to have to create Elon News ;)

I think it’s interesting to see somebody who thought content moderation was a simple problem realise that content moderation is actually an incredibly difficult and, in some ways, unsolvable problem. However it risks becoming a dominant conversation when there are plenty of other good conversations to have.

[TheHappyOddish]

Whilst I've had a lot of fun arguing about him, Twitter etc, it is getting a bit stale now. Hopefully he quietens down a bit soon and we can move onto a big and important new topic like 2 spaces or tab!

[hulitu]

> Hmmm, at this rate we’re going to have to create Elon News ;)

Some people cannot sleep at night withour looking in other's people shit.

[tbergeron]

This is ridiculous...

[davidguetta]

Who cares ffs

[_Algernon_]

Beautiful

[TylerE]

Considering the data is already collected for every aircraft, the “collective time and effort” is so close to zero as to get lost in the noise.

[RivieraKid]

There's no indication that the teenager is mentally ill.

[zqfuz]

Spot on, but to me it's rather sad, and I wish I didn't have to read about it here, since I have no interest in celebrity gossip

[andrepd]

>mentally ill teenager

Source?

[password54321]

This is about the hypocrisy over free speech not ‘the left’. But I suppose that won’t stop you from mindlessly rallying behind him no matter how hard he clowns you and everyone else for his own pleasure thinking he is somehow on ‘your side’. Just like someone else…

[altacc]

I’m not sure I qualify as a spokesperson for the entire “left” ;)

It seems a lot of people are pointing out the massive amounts of hypocrisy Elon is displaying, as well as how fickle & fragile the concept of free speech is when it comes up against the personal opinions of a billionaire.

Plus a democratic vote, which is definitely not what a Twitter poll is, controlling speech is exactly the thing that many on the (if we’re using labels) “right” objected to once a truly democratic vote (within a flawed process) delivered a government that they didn’t want. True freedom of speech is a fixed principle, not dictated by the whims of current powers, votes or Overton window.

[Dylan1312]

This comment reads like something out of an Orwell book.

How accurate do you think it is to reduce human virtues, considerations etc to a model which simpliy splits the populations in two? Stop perpetuating football-team politics.

Also, the twitter account is still banned.

[enkid]

Not everyone who was disgusted by this behavior is on "the left"

[karpour]

The rest of the world thinks in more complex terms than "the left" and "the right".

[LastTrain]

I don’t know what you are on about with “left” and “right” but neither of those have anything to do with being a hypocrite.

[BlargMcLarg]

I don't understand the obsession with infantile "right left" division US politics has and is plaguing the entire world with. There is more nuance to this.

[shapefrog]

dox

verb: doxx

search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the internet, typically with malicious intent.

[kolinko]

It breaks reddit rules probably - against doxxing and publishing private information of individuals. My bet is that it will get banned very soon.

[_kbh_]

this is a myth perpetrated by Elon to justify his banning of twitter account, there is nothing private about tail information, in fact it is required to be publicly available.

[_Algernon_]

>private information

It is publicly available information.

[agilob]

Subreddits were banned for a few comments doxxing someone.

[jmeister]

The account has been suspended

https://old.reddit.com/user/Elon_jet_tracker

[wutwutwutwut]

This is public information, not private.