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dicomdan | 3 years ago

Florida and Texas each build more new housing than CA, NY, MA, and IL combined (each effectively run by a single party).

The answer is here, people just don't want it.

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anonporridge|3 years ago

Reminds me of this video essay from the NYTimes about how liberal hypocrisy fuels inequality, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNDgcjVGHIw

The sad reality is that a lot of the people who shout the loudest about the problems of wealth and systemic inequality with their words, do very little or even the opposite with their actions.

There's probably similar psychology at play as to why it's common advice to not tell people about your personal goals. The act of proclaiming what you want to do gives you that little kick of dopamine that saps your motivation for actually doing it, making it less likely that you'll actually follow through. Waiting until after your accomplishment to share your success is much more effective.

In the case of moral virtue signalling, it seems like the act of proclaiming your virtue is much more likely to give you a feeling of moral license that makes you feel ok about acting immorally to serve your self interest.

In short, be suspicious of people who virtue signal too much, and judge them by their actions and results, not by their words or intent.

legitster|3 years ago

This answer is thoroughly irrelevant to Seattle. Just throw up more low cost suburban divisions? Where? Nearly every square foot of land between the ocean and the mountains is already built on for a 100 mile stretch up and down the coast.

It seems like a complete waste of time to try to declare a political victory here.

pastor_bob|3 years ago

They build outward, not upward. Huge difference. (NYC is 7x as dense as Dallas)

They already need a highway expansion in Austin because of it

gtk40|3 years ago

I'd like to find statistics on this. I'm less familiar with Texas than Florida, and my firsthand experience with Florida has me curious. I drove from Georgia to South Florida recently and saw lots of new development, including high rises and other multi family dwelling all over central and south Florida. Even the single family neighborhoods I saw were on average denser than what I am used to in Georgia. Florida may not be developing at the same density as NYC, but it is not all single family homes either.

bachmeier|3 years ago

Texas is building six times as much housing as Arkansas, Louisiana, and Oklahoma combined (all of the other states in their Census Bureau region). So what's the answer?

dicomdan|3 years ago

Not sure if this is sarcasm, but obviously this is not a valid comparison given the population size.

OTOH, Texas and Florida are both a fraction of a population compared to the sum of NY + CA + MA + IL.

By the way, even the states you listed (not nearly growing as fast as TX/FL) are still building more per capita than the NY / CA / MA / IL.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1240622/new-residential-...

alphabettsy|3 years ago

People want to move to Texas #1, the places the parent comment posted are much more dense where people actually want to live. Buffalo, NY doesn’t have the same issues as NYC and Springfield, IL isn’t Chicago.

bryanlarsen|3 years ago

What, that high property taxes encourage more building? That's probably true.

oneoff786|3 years ago

Is the answer large swaths of land that isn’t great for farming?

Manuel_D|3 years ago

California has plenty of land. San Francisco is hardly a dense city. Seattle manages to build lots of housing, despite sharing many of the same challenges: costal city with limited land, earthquakes,etc. But development and housing policy is very different.

California, especially the bay Area, is notorious for being anti-development. The landed class will furiously fight any attempt to build dense housing, to keep property prices high. Rent control exacerbates this as most residents have no incentive to solve the housing shortage since they aren't affected by price increases.

Washington, by contrast, prohibits rent control statewide. It's no coincidence I'm seeing far more construction in Seattle and it's suburbs than I did SF.

dicomdan|3 years ago

Have you seen CA, NY, and IL on the map? Lack of land is not a problem.