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Deep work. Essentialism in asynchronous culture

168 points| jorzel | 3 years ago |jorzel.github.io

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[+] gorgoiler|3 years ago|reply
Your level as an engineer should be based on how much deep work you can do without screwing the pooch. The best engineers can be left alone for months and be sure to return with something cogent. The most junior will be required to have daily design check ins and regular code reviews as they go from start to finish on a project whose problem space needs to be well understood and mapped out before any deep work begins.

It is very damaging to an organisation when someone who cannot create understandable solutions is given the deep work breathing space to go crazy. It is a difficult but important thing to find out about candidates / probationary employees sooner rather than later. It’s important to keep a stash of pre-baked project ideas on hand so that you can use them to assess newcomers to the team, especially if you only have three months to figure out if they are able to meet your expectations before being confirmed as a full time employee.

[+] mym1990|3 years ago|reply
An engineer being left alone for months just sounds like a great way for a user to ask for one thing and get something completely different. I think most engineers would love to just be left alone for days or even hours at a time, and that sounds a lot more reasonable.
[+] ResearchCode|3 years ago|reply
Daily "check ins" is way excessive. One status meeting a week is plenty.

If they're also should-you-be-fired-today interrogations, then it appears that the organizations real problem is toxicity.

[+] danuker|3 years ago|reply
> The best engineers can be left alone for months and be sure to return with something cogent.

As a customer, this would be absurd. If I don't get what I imagined I wanted (rather than what I said), I'd rather find out in time to ask you to steer the solution towards what I want, instead of you bankrupting me for a wrong solution.

Frequent feedback is the essence of Agile. It makes sure the development process addresses the business needs with lowest latency and lowest gap in understanding.

https://agilemanifesto.org/principles.html

[+] psteitz|3 years ago|reply
I agree with the main point here, but one thing that has always puzzled me is how to think about what might be called deep collaborative work. Most meetings, especially the status-y kind, are manifestly not "deep" but some of the most intense work that I have ever done has been with one or a small handful of collaborators.
[+] jorzel|3 years ago|reply
I think that collaborative work can be deep, e.g. pair programming. However, the more people, the harder to be focused on presise topic / goal.
[+] wortelefant|3 years ago|reply
a common trap in "deep work only" teams is local optimisation. while interruptions should be minimized and batched, the overall flow of cards and a low average cycle time requires focused collaboration and regular slack time to resolve blockers. Otherwise, important issues spend more time waiting than getting completed. Individual deep work with low collaboration while more important work is piling up would be an antipattern.
[+] Cardinal7167|3 years ago|reply
I’ve experienced this first hand. When all your colleagues only deep work and you’re tasked with some necessary grunt work, your productivity will plummet when you’re trying to move fast.
[+] BlargMcLarg|3 years ago|reply
>This approach is based on pushing information rather than pulling it

This is really what's at the heart of almost every discussion regarding communication. Many if not most places introduce polling rituals as a one-size-fits-all solution, whereas many people work best pushing information and having everyone else react to it. It is no different than event-driven structure vs polling.

Every time you create more 'polling' systems and push some claim (the infamous 'new employees won't speak up without standups' comes to mind), there is less pressure to teach them asynchronous ways of working. Every time some manual procedure is pushed as a fix, the alternative of an automatic procedure is pushed aside because 'costs too much money' and 'look, manual works, communication!'.

[+] pm90|3 years ago|reply
Well the manual solution may be good enough! It always depends on the situation.
[+] Lyngbakr|3 years ago|reply
I really like this concise consolidation of these ideas. In my opinion, both Deep Work and Essentialism — like so many books in that genre — could've been pamphlets. It Doesn't Have to be Crazy at Work was pretty jam-packed with different ideas, though.
[+] robotresearcher|3 years ago|reply
> Monastic and bimodal modes are rather reserved for professions that can manage work without intensive communication with people, like writers, scientists, researchers, etc.

Many or most scientists are academics. Communication time dominates the job of a professor. Teaching, and the invisible job of running a university takes between 1/3 and 2/3 of a 40 hour week. Both of these are based around strict schedules, so the actual schedule in a non-sabbatical, non-buyout semester ends up journalistic or approaching rhythmic at best.

Thus the deep work slots are very precious. I did most of mine after dinner, or after kids' bed time. A professor I respect, well known for his reliable productivity, did a couple of hours of email at 2am for >20 years to create time in the work day for the real work.

Professor is a wonderful job, but making time to be a productive scientist is a constant struggle. This is why graduate students feel the science is delegated to them.

[+] auggierose|3 years ago|reply
Doesn't sound wonderful to me. As a researcher, I want to do research, not administration.
[+] civopsec|3 years ago|reply
As a low-level employee, my noise-cancelling headset helps me way more when it comes to concentration than any how-to book on “deep work” could.
[+] LunarAurora|3 years ago|reply
The article is right: Deep work hates interruptions (including everything synchronous)

However, the kind of rigid scheduling it proposes goes against the freedom deep work loves. It is not the lazy/mindless kind of freedom I’m referring to, but the freedom from over-quantified environments : IMO it is counterproductive to aim at always rigidly controlling that "in the zone" experience.

[+] r_hoods_ghost|3 years ago|reply
For me it isn't about maintaining my own schedule it is about managing the expectations of others, be they managers or colleagues. I have "office hours" on my calendar where people can book in with me and then the last couple of hours of my day people know I'm interruptible. Outside of those hours I don't check email, don't have any chat open and my phone goes straight to voicemail with a message to call me again if it is an emergency, which will make it ring. I start work very early (05:30-06:00) and am most productive in the mornings, so my office hours and interruptible time is when I'm starting to wind down and my capacity for deep work is reducing.
[+] Arcanum-XIII|3 years ago|reply
Lot of people doing deep work do it on a schedule - and a very hard one at that. It’s based on the creation of habit, instead of relying on luck to be in the zone. The most important thing after all is to show up!
[+] fedeb95|3 years ago|reply
What works for me is a rhythmic schedule but that concentrates all shallow things in the morning and deep work in the afternoon. I'm also more productive in the afternoon evening, so depending on your inclinations the opposite may work, deep work in the morning and shallow the rest of the day. The challenge is scheduling calls in the morning only.
[+] arcturus17|3 years ago|reply
Same in essence but I prefer the opposite: all deep work done between 08:00 and 13:00 then whatever.
[+] jrib|3 years ago|reply
I agree that scheduling regular time to focus is important. I try to start early and do most of my work in the morning when many people are not active. That helps avoid meetings and interruptions.
[+] fn1|3 years ago|reply
All people in a company need to do deep work to make it count.

Because if you are able to concentrate and find a solution for a problem, you also need other people to concentrate and understand your solution.

[+] lowbloodsugar|3 years ago|reply
Deep Work is not a concept that was popularized by that guy. If he popularized anything it was a new name for an existing concept.