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darren_ | 3 years ago

I've mentioned this in another comment but: this update will permanently disable any 32 bit iOS apps you have on your device with no recourse or downgrade possible.

So, reason not to update: you like using software you've paid for.

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jquery|3 years ago

I remember when iPhones first truly became useless if stolen. Tech support forums were filled with sob stories about why a particular person couldn’t activate their iPhone, begging for a secret bypass. They would make up sob stories because otherwise people would just call them a thief and ignore them. But the tech support forums usually called them a thief anyway because most of the time, they were, and part of the cost of ownership of these devices is keeping them up to date and remembering the activation password…

Anyway I’m sharing this because the “my ancient unsupported 32 bit applications will fail”, while a minimally valid reason not to upgrade, reminds me a bit of the sob stories people would tell to get tech support for their stolen iPhones…

ChuckNorris89|3 years ago

>They would make up sob stories because otherwise people would just call them a thief and ignore them.

You're being unfairly harsh here. Most likely they bought it off the second hand market because in many countries people can't afford the prices of new iPhones, and then realized it's a stolen phone.

lamontcg|3 years ago

Is that the fault of who sold you the software and isn't upgrading it for whatever reason or who made the O/S?

OkayPhysicist|3 years ago

I think it's both.

Fortunately, unless you're doing hacky bullshit, changing from 32 to 64 bit should be trivial. Unfortunately, companies go out of business, so can't be relied on to update their own software into perpetuity. Fortunately, it probably doesn't have to the original company to update the software, because it should be a straightforward update of some build parameters. Unfortunately, proprietary, source-unavailable code is the norm in commercial software development, so no one but the original company has the source code. Thus it's the original company's fault for not being at least source-available.

Fortunately, we have the technology to run 32 bit software on 64 bit operating systems. Unfortunately Apple has decided to not do so any more. Fortunately, Apple used to allow this, so your software still works on an older version of the operating system. Unfortunately, Apple has decided to brick that version of the operating system, forcing you to update it and lose access to the software you were perfectly capable of running on your device before Apple's unilateral decision. Thus, it's Apple's fault, for breaking backward compatibility and then forcing people to update.

bamboozled|3 years ago

Why should software last > 10 years when very little else in life does ?

Sure tools etc can last a lifetime , but my drop saws motor will probably burn out in 10 years and will be replaced with an upgraded model ?

highwind|3 years ago

Just because your drop saw burns out in 10 years that doesn't automatically make my code obsolete in 10 years.

I can make a same counter argument using the same logic. I have a car that runs fine well past 10 year mark. Why can't I expect a software do the same?

Pigalowda|3 years ago

They’re different tools though. I’m sure Elsevier makes that same argument about text books

OkayPhysicist|3 years ago

Because software is more like the song on a record than a record player: I have songs that were bought on vinyl, transferred to cassette, then transferred again from vinyl to CD, then from CD onto my computer as digital files, then copied from device to device for the last 2 decades. The record player, in contrast, died years ago.

Software's even better! Since it was inherently digital to begin with, I'm able to make leaps like that with ZERO data loss! The only thing that kills software permanently is planned obsolesce. It doesn't matter what the lifetime of your saw is, that's like arguing that you should be free to shoot nonagenarians because most people don't live that long anyway. It's not about how long other stuff lasts, it's about the fact that it was perfectly capable of going on living until it was killed.

xattt|3 years ago

Tools often have serviceable parts. A burnt out motor is just worn out carbon brushes, which are easily replaceable.