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ameen | 3 years ago

Funny thing is, as a practicing muslim - there is no compulsion in religion (direct quote from the Qur'an). Iran literally is using the ignorance of the populace to push their own means of controlling the masses.

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rayiner|3 years ago

(My dad’s grandfather was an imam.) That means that you can’t compel people to convert to Islam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Baqara_256. That does not mean you can’t have binding religious law Muslims are required to follow.

That being said, the religious requirement is modest dress. Some traditions interpret that to require covering the hair or face. Other traditions do not. Hijab was uncommon in Bangladesh when my parents were growing up, but is increasingly common today due to growing cultural influence from middle eastern schools of Islam. That said, it’s worth noting that Islam is not like Protestant Christianity where lay people are supposed to interpret the meaning for themselves. Where relevant Islamic experts have spoken you’re supposed to defer to their interpretation.

orlp|3 years ago

That works until you end up with one scholar saying A and another saying B.

ameen|3 years ago

Thank you for the contextualization - but Iran’s handling is nowhere close to Islamic, not observing the hijab doesn’t take you out of the fold of Islam (also where have men been held to the hijab - covering awrah, in such places?) - the 5 pillars are the fardh, everything else is something we strive towards.

Allah SWT’s mercy is boundless, hudhud punishments can’t be enacted for something minor of this sort. Iranian government lost the plot and is using every excuse to feign legitimacy when it never had any.

thoew232s|3 years ago

You are missing the point. Individual should be free to ignore religion. Every religion has bad verses. Quran advocates to kill non belivers and other religious people and yet many choose not to do it. This is not a problem when you live in a secular democratic country. But once you live in a islamic state this law can not be questioned even if you dont like it. For this reason the main point here is not what religion allows or dis allows. It is people should have the right to say fuck off to religion.

exabrial|3 years ago

Precisely. Will of man vs will of God.

The same thing is repeated all over the world unfortunately with other religious faiths.

cinntaile|3 years ago

What are some examples of muslim majority countries that allow women to not wear one?

Laaas|3 years ago

Quite a few? Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, etc. etc.

MMAesawy|3 years ago

All but Iran, and possibly some parts of Saudi Arabia?

kingofpandora|3 years ago

It's mandatory in two countries by my count, and optional in all the rest.

cultofmetatron|3 years ago

currently in morocco. I see plenty of muslim women without headscarves.

Mystery-Machine|3 years ago

There is no compulsion for hijab or there is no compulsion for many other discriminatory practices that, guess what, Muslim-majority countries impose?