[case0x00]

kind of amusing to say that, given the reason this is occurring is because the US is an incredibly popular country for immigrants to flock to improve their QOL and give their kids the best opportunities even though they know they're entering on non-immigrant visas. Yeah USCIS is infamously glacial and the visa situation these people are in is extremely frustrating, yet they persevere to live in the US.

[Sakos]

That's the crux though, no? The US could be a legitimately incredible place, and there are glimpses of that all the time. The fact that her parents were able to immigrate and raise their child there is a great success story. I won't hesitate to say they contributed to the US's economy and tax system as much as any native born citizen. But then the US turns around and does this to the children of immigrants who would continue to contribute meaningfully?

It's insanely wasteful, destructive, short-sighted and, most of all, cruel.

If I had to describe the US in one sentence, that would be it. If I had to present an example of how paradoxically destructive the system is in the US, I'd pick her story, because it's oddly reflective of probably most stories I hear out of the US. Great deeds marred by evil, intentional or not.

[nverno]

The US has by far the most foreign born residents of any country, and is always in the top 2 or 3 countries accepting immigrants every year! So, if you're going to measure the cruelness of a country by the immigrants they take in, the US would fair well on that scale.

I mean basically everyone I know is either a first, second, or third gen immigrant.

[mathverse]

Dont mind him. A lot of europeans dont relate with that arrogant attitude some in the nordics show towards our american brethren.

[Broken_Hippo]

I moved from the US to a northern European country. Taxes are high, but not as high as taxes + health insurance premiums + copay was in the US.

And I can tell you this: If I were to have children, they are going to have plenty more opportunity here than they would if I still lived in the US. Even if they are poor, they are likely to have food, housing, and medical care.

If you lack things like food, housing, and medical care, moving to the US might seem like a viable option, though.

[LeanderK]

But this is mainly an economic argument. And the comment was (in my point of view) about the ethics.

High wages (or any income at all) can lure people into all sorts of situations. It is those that have that power to act responsible.

[lawn]

Maybe that's because other countries are even worse and the US has a very good marketing?

[MomoXenosaga]

I want to make one thing clear: the US is paradise for immigrants.

You would not believe the pure economic calculations and soullessness that my northern European country visits upon refugees and migrants. The State is an all powerful and all encompassing entity that crushes anyone in its path.