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tacoman | 3 years ago

The website says:

~ 1,895 tons of CO2 emissions.

According to the EPA (https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/greenhouse-gas-emissions-t...): "A typical passenger vehicle emits about 4.6 metric tons of carbon dioxide per year."

So about 420 cars worth of emissions.

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aeroman|3 years ago

Another way to think about it is in terms of average person years

  American: ~15 tonnes CO2 per year - 126 years
  European: ~10 tonnes CO2 per year - 190 years
  World average: ~5 tonnes CO2 per year - 379 years
This one plane emits many lifetimes of CO2 per year.

I don't think this accounts for non-CO2 impacts either (e.g. contrails). Multiply the years by about 2 as an estimate of that.

hammock|3 years ago

Can we also get this for leaders of Congress, Taylor Swift, Al Gore, etc?

MuffinFlavored|3 years ago

Taylor Swift lets the company that manages the jet (that she owns? that she leases? I have no clue) so it looks like it's all her but it's just under her name I think. I could be wrong.

vasqw|3 years ago

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clnq|3 years ago

Greta has some work to do.

MuffinFlavored|3 years ago

Elon has taken at least that many internal combustion engines off the road thanks to Tesla, right? /s

What are the actual stats on manufacturing a Tesla vs manufacturing an internal combustion engine car? Where is the "CO2 emission breakeven"?

ajross|3 years ago

A quick Google pulls up this article that says[1] "2500 miles" (to offset the energy overhead in manufacturing a 80 kWh battery assuming all the input was coal electricity): https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/how-much-co2-emitted-manufac....

Basically, yes, things are as they seem and EV's carbon footprint has only a minimal manufacturing overhead to go with the extremely large consumption advantage. They aren't as good as giving up private transport entirely, but yeah: buy the Tesla.

This argument doesn't fly, basically. It's just the same recycled FUD distributed by the fossil fuel industry, just coming out of the mouths of different folks now that it turns out Musk is a political enemy.

[1] Among a ton of context. As always, "it's complicated". But the answer is definitely in favor of the EV.

lancesells|3 years ago

This is the question I would love to have answered for so many things. When is buying a used gas guzzler better than a brand new electric vehicle?

cosmodisk|3 years ago

I don't know about electric cars, but from what I remember, for a car with ICE, it's about 8 years.

pclmulqdq|3 years ago

The breakeven milage is depressingly far. Electric cars take a lot more stuff and much more polluting manufacturing processes to be made.

Around 2016, the total carbon footprint of a gas car was lower than a Tesla, pretty much for its entire life. It's getting better and better as energy gets cleaner, though.