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c1yd3i | 3 years ago

I pirate everything. Haven't subscribed to a service like Spotify, Netflix, etc. in many years. I can listen to my music in CD-quality and bring it anywhere. Same with any movie, TV show, etc. And I know that no one is selling what I find interesting as analytics data.

At the same time, I want to support creators, and I'll donate/use services like Bandcamp to directly support folks I appreciate. I have a $100/mo "donation" fund.

Has nothing to do with the price as I'm more than happy to support creators. Just not through centralized platform that doesn't respect my freedom.

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skrowl|3 years ago

I channeled the money I was spending on YouTubeTV into a seedbox that has 0 personal information about me, paid for with Monero (XMR). Much better bang for the buck and completely removes all the potential adverse legal effects that you could have by torrenting on your home / work connection.

I was happily paying a netflix and spotify sub for over a decade, but once we started getting greedy with Paramount+, AppleTV+, Discovery+, Peacock, etc. I decided it was high time to sail the seven seas again, which I hadn't done since college.

I keep waiting for all the netflix-likes to fail and people go back to just selling their content to netflix, but I don't think it's going to happen. I might be yaaar matey for the rest of my life.

palata|3 years ago

How do you access the seedbox anonymously? Unless you use Tor (which doesn't seem practical for movies), they surely see where your connections come from, don't they?

electriclove|3 years ago

Do you move the files from your seedbox to your home to watch or do you have Plex or something like it on your seedbox and just stream to your home?

JeremyNT|3 years ago

The challenge with this is actually supporting creators for complex works that are published by these companies.

Take a TV show for example - hundreds of people work on these things. There's no real way to support the show when you pirate something. TV shows don't have patreons or kickstarters.

Piracy is quite attractive because of how hostile the copyright holders are to end users. Sticking it to the megacorps that treat us with such disdain, even in these small ways, feels great. But this leaves a difficult question of how to actually support the people who are making the thing.

As far as I can tell, if you are serious about this, the closest thing to directly supporting a complex creative endeavor like a TV show is to "purchase" it from Amazon. Of course, you realize you "own" nothing, and Amazon still takes its cut, but at least it's a "sale" for the specific work in some spreadsheet.

pbronez|3 years ago

I think this is where NFT could actually be useful. Buy a video, and you have a license for it. The money goes to the people who made it. Maybe you resell that license sometime, whatever.

The point is that you can get the actual video file from ~wherever~ and you're legally fine because you own the license.

Now the streaming platforms compete for being the best video delivery service for the array of things you own a license for.

Movies Anywhere is the closest thing to this I have seen. It only works for movies though, and it's a centralized service.

__MatrixMan__|3 years ago

> TV shows don't have patreons or kickstarters.

I wonder why not. If you're already doing payroll for the production of a TV show, it should be trivial to express each payout as a percentage (this particular gaffer gets 0.56%, etc).

It would then be easy to encode that in software somewhere (smart contract?) such that when payments come in, they get split up and disbursed accordingly.

If you coupled the addresses of these contracts with the content itself (as metadata on the file or in a lookup table somewhere, keyed by CTPH) consumers could then be choosy about whether they're supporting content which transparently supports all of its creators vs content that just lets a middleman soak up the profits.

kaba0|3 years ago

I honestly don’t feel bad at all. I am fairly sure the actual creators barely get any compensations from plus 1 subscriber, so in effect one only hurts these streaming sites, which really should finally get the message sent by that.

mikrotikker|3 years ago

Aye matey. Only thing I pay for is Bandcamp since it goes direct to the creator and steam games because the experience is amazing esp since I game exclusively on Linux.

sliken|3 years ago

How do you view that content? Plex, Roku, TVs, and related are definitely spying on what you watch, even if it's locally hosted.

camel_Snake|3 years ago

Jellyfin would be my recommendation if you are concerned about this. It's like Plex but open-source.

notch656c|3 years ago

Do those devices have cell network access?

lrvick|3 years ago

Hook a small PC to each TV and run Kodi.