And what if the firewall blocks icmp? What if the dns server is internal to the network and is returning a stale ip? There are way too paths down this rabbit hole.
This is exactly my point. It's even worse in a "school test" situation, because who knows what contrived scenario the instructor has invented depending on what their focus is (eg: DNS vs physical net vs routing vs apache config).
Maybe there are multiple DNS servers for the zone that are returning different IPs, maybe one or both of them is even in split-zone configuration so it returns a different IP depending on if you're internal or external. Maybe the client has manual DNS configured or a hosts entry that's wrong.
Each of these problems would have several more layers of troubleshooting steps and branching, and it's not even a complete list -- and this is only if the problem is DNS-centric! There's hundreds of other branches for each of the other problem categories.
I mean if it is a test you obviously test things that you tought them first, or not?
Of course in reality there can be more, weirder things — especially if you are coming into an unknown network. But we are talking about an educational context here, would not make a lot of sense to let your students run into new unknown issues on a test unless your goal is not to educate.
gregmac|3 years ago
Maybe there are multiple DNS servers for the zone that are returning different IPs, maybe one or both of them is even in split-zone configuration so it returns a different IP depending on if you're internal or external. Maybe the client has manual DNS configured or a hosts entry that's wrong.
Each of these problems would have several more layers of troubleshooting steps and branching, and it's not even a complete list -- and this is only if the problem is DNS-centric! There's hundreds of other branches for each of the other problem categories.
atoav|3 years ago
Of course in reality there can be more, weirder things — especially if you are coming into an unknown network. But we are talking about an educational context here, would not make a lot of sense to let your students run into new unknown issues on a test unless your goal is not to educate.