[davidmanheim]

Yeah, and the idea that these programs can't have affordances is silly reliance on a definition that ignores what can happen.

It clearly proves too much - humans have a limited action space - they can only move muscles. So they can't truly explore a larger action space, so they cannot be general intelligences.

But more specifically, if something is within an LLM's action space, whether or not you call it an affordance doesn't change whether it gets explored and used. And perhaps you'd argue that their action space is limited because they are in a box. But hook an LLM up to the internet to allow it to query and retrieve data, and suddenly the action space is essentially infinite. So the limitation isn't the model, it's how the model was hobbled by being denied access to the world.