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zw7 | 3 years ago

Cancer rates skyrocketed because we started screening for cancer. It's that simple.

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tee_0|3 years ago

And obesity skyrocketed because nobody knew the difference between a fat person and a skinny person before 1970? We knew what cancer was before 1970. We certainly knew what diabetes was. The simple fact is that people started getting sicker in the 70s.

For a very long time people have been going to the doctor when they feel sick. Oliver Cromwell consulted with doctors and was convinced that he was very ill. Later on we understand that he had bipolar disorder. When people feel sick they consult doctors and have been doing this for hundreds of years. An illness like diabetes presents very specific symptoms and doctors have been aware of diabetes for a very long time. The same is true for many kinds of cancer. And even mental illnesses as I have pointed out were recognized as medical ailments by people for hundreds of years. It wasn’t that we suddenly started diagnosing these things.

Also, there are communities of people who do not develop heart disease or insulin resistance or depression or cancer. The common thread between every community like this is that they live outside of the modern world and do not eat modern foods. They live in an old way. This is well documented. Yet another insane data point that people somehow ignore. There are literally people out there who basically do not get cancer heart disease or diabetes and nobody seems to think it’s important to get to the bottom of this, people like you who leave snide comments and contribute nothing. A worthless parasite.

So there are communities that live in the old way and do not get any of these diseases. We see that these diseases exploded for us around 1970. It couldn’t be more obvious.

zw7|3 years ago

> An illness like diabetes presents very specific symptoms and doctors have been aware of diabetes for a very long time. The same is true for many kinds of cancer

You can have diabetes and high blood pressure and cancer and not have symptoms. That's why we screen for them. If you have symptoms, it is no longer screening, it's diagnosing. A lot more screening is happening now than before the 70s so we are obviously finding a lot more disease.

I'm not arguing against the fact that lifestyle and environment play a significant role in increasing cancer, but that doesn't change the fact that dramatically increased screening rates have contributed to dramatically increased disease diagnoses.

> There are literally people out there who basically do not get cancer heart disease or diabetes and nobody seems to think it’s important to get to the bottom of this

I think there is probably more research these days into causes of cancer than ever before.

> people like you who leave snide comments and contribute nothing. A worthless parasite.

Really?

mixmastamyk|3 years ago

The documentary “sugar coated” details this period when the sugar industry got everyone believing excessive sugar was fine and fat wasn’t healthy. Leading to a wave of low-fat sugar-fortified food in the late 70s on. Obesity exploded in response and related outcomes.

nebulousnights|3 years ago

Thank you for your comment. I studied anthropology, an imperfect field, but one thing was obvious right away and it is that point you are making here. Please keep telling people.

lm28469|3 years ago

I'm not so sure, cancers seem to be mostly due to environment/lifestyle [0]. Diet is a big factor and it definitely got worse since the 70s

[0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2515569/

zw7|3 years ago

I'm not arguing that they don't, but the fact is

- the American Cancer Society didn't start promoting cervical cancer screening until the 1960s [1] - mammography was first recommended officialy in 1976 [1]

Screening was just coming of age 50 years ago so it's no surprise we started to find something once we started looking for it.

[1]: https://www.cancer.org/treatment/understanding-your-diagnosi...