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gns24 | 3 years ago

That sounds massively expensive. Being very generous and assuming that the piston is the length of the hole and can rise out completely, then the energy storage is still only a few times that required to pump all the water out of the hole. It doesn't start to compare to the volume behind a hydro dam (which may then have a large vertical drop to the generator further down-river), but is still much more complex.

Another proposed idea for places that have deep seas or lakes is pumping air down into a storage at the bottom of the water. This storage can even being a flexible plastic - there isn't any high loading on it because the pressure balances out. The issue with that tech is that it's not that efficient, as compressing the air going down generates a lot of heat - some of that could potentially be recovered, but there's a trade-off with simplicity. Also if the containment fails then a lot of air bubbles to the surface, potentially sinking any ship on the surface at the time.

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ErikCorry|3 years ago

As ben_w points out elsewhere in the thread, renewables are so cheap that losses matter less than you think.

Put another way: Today in Denmark, electricity is free. Literally 0 cents (øre) before taxes and transport fees (of about 5 cents, 36 øre). Just before Christmas it was about $1 (700 øre) per kWh. There's no inefficiency where it would be bad to store energy with swings like that.