[ominous]

> So while I'm certain that someone, somewhere ran a red light because of moral outrage over repressive government, that's not main reason people run a red light.

So you agree coercion causes pushback. A bit tricky to get that out of you. Thank you for the exchange.

[eesmith]

Like I said, your point is "so high-level and abstract as to be useless."

I expect far more people have run a red light because they were texting than as pushback against coercion.

It appears far more kids have failed to receive their MMR shots due to pandemic-related interruptions in children’s medical visits than parental pushback against coercion.

[ominous]

> Like I said, your point is "so high-level and abstract as to be useless."

It is not useless. It tells you coercion, if applied to fix these other reasons, could be counterproductive.