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throwawayacc3 | 3 years ago

>There's lots of evidence going back to egyptian times supporting the science behind this.

No there isn't. There isn't any science behind this to begin with.

>Unfortunately most people only see the surface level sound bites thrown out in the media and make up their mind based on that - or what their own religion has pushed forward.

Exactly right.

>I suspect that fifty years from now we will have built on all the existing knowledge (including historical) and have a more refined understanding put together.

Hopefully we'll continue with the knowledge of science based biological facts that are no longer in vogue: humans are a dimorphic species that come in male in female. That is what science has taught us.

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xist|3 years ago

>No there isn't. There isn't any science behind this to begin with. Sorry I didn't realize you were an expert in this topic, but you must have slept through the lessons of SRY gene (one of the many topics that touch on this).

>That is what science has taught us.

Er, no. While you may believe what you wish, the scientific AND medical AND psychological community disagrees with your assertion. There's more research happening into it in the past 10 years than in the past 100 years with some interesting research. Unfortunately people are operating off 50+ years of knowledge handed down in elementary schools or via religion. I don't expect this is an area of study for you, so that's probably why you're not aware of these advances. At one point in time people thought the earth was flat or that people were only righthanded. I'm glad to part of the scientific community that embraces increasing knowledge regardless of how it challenges preconcieved notions. That's what science is.

Regardless, your claims relating to Lysenko are extremely hyperbolic at best - for either group in the comparison.

operatingthetan|3 years ago

>Er, no. While you may believe what you wish, the scientific AND medical AND psychological community disagrees with your assertion.

I've noticed the poster in question has a tendency to incorrectly frame opinions as fact.

throwawayacc3|3 years ago

>Er, no.

Er, yes.

>While you may believe what you wish, the scientific AND medical AND psychological community disagrees with your assertion.

No they don't. "Scientific" is meaningless here, grievance studies are not science. Medical field deals with male and female humans, such is basic biology still taught in all university medical schools. Current medical books also cover male and female specific physiology (because there are only two types).

>There's more research happening into it in the past 10 years than in the past 100 years with some interesting research.

Quantity != quality. There were a lot of publications in the USSR that stated genetics was a false Western ploy.

>Unfortunately people are operating off 50+ years of knowledge

Some basic findings and facts don't change. The fact that we're carbon based organisms is 50+ old. The fact that we're sexually dimorphic mammals is 50+ year old.

>elementary schools or via religion.

Yes, Newchurch is definitely working this way.

>I don't expect this is an area of study for you, so that's probably why you're not aware of these advances.

There are no advances. You don't need to concentrate in an "area of study" to understand the fact that humans are sexually dimorphic. Grievance studies are not an "expert" field.

>At one point in time people thought the earth was flat or that people were only righthanded. I'm glad to part of the scientific community that embraces increasing knowledge regardless of how it challenges preconcieved notions.

And that science was settled decades/centuries ago, much like the fact that humans are male/female mammals. Thanks for making this point for me.

>Regardless, your claims relating to Lysenko are extremely hyperbolic at best

No at all, they're spot on.