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cbkeller | 3 years ago

Seasonal storage is an interesting idea. Rare grid outages seems pretty easy with batteries if the South Australia example is anything to go by though, and for medium-term storage there's also pumped hydro -- not sure where that compares in cost?

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pfdietz|3 years ago

Rare prolonged outages are bad for batteries, since the capital cost is too high. You want something that has very low capital cost, even if it burns a fuel. Simple cycle gas turbines power plants might cost $0.50/W.

Retric|3 years ago

Existing battery technology works best when you don’t charge to 100% or discharge to 0%. On top of this you want oversized batteries to deal with battery degradation over time. This means any large scale battery system includes a buffer beyond normal use which you would only use if wholesale prices spiked.

On top of this grid operators want generation redundancy in case an individual power plant goes offline for whatever reason. Combining both you get quite a lot of excess capacity compared to the current grid.

eru|3 years ago

> Rare prolonged outages are bad for batteries, since the capital cost is too high.

You could subsidies that by using your batteries to energy to peak load times?

liketochill|3 years ago

How long can south Australia power their load from batteries? I thought they had the one 100MWH battery so basically could power 100k house for an hour? And that battery was over 100 million dollars.

defrost|3 years ago

South Australia’s incredible week: 104.1 per cent wind and solar over seven days

https://reneweconomy.com.au/south-australias-incredible-week...

   South Australia aims to reach 100 per cent “net renewables” within a few years – over a full year – but in the past week it has already done better than that.
It would appear they are aiming to export excess renewable power to Victoria (neighbouring state).