[ferrumfist]

> US or the poorer parts of Europe

Sorry to nitpick, but I've driven across the USA many times and I've never had much to complain about with regards to our roads (outside of Ohio, fuck that state). Doubly so when comparing our road infrastructure to poorer countries.

[remarkEon]

I've driven across the country 4 times now, and lived in all four corners plus the middle (New England, Georgia, California, Washington, plus Minnesota/Iowa). In a cold weather state the roads tend to get rough because of the winters. Roads are expensive to maintain there. Never had any trouble at all in Texas or Arizona. Lots of trouble in California, though, and the Dakotas can be rough outside of I90 and I94. Not a function of negligence or anything in the Dakotas, it's just cold.

[wbl]

The Netherlands is a poorer country with about two thirds the GDP per Capita of the US. Here in Berkeley I see many potholes. I've never seen one there. And that's before we get into the increased road safety.

[ghshephard]

Please check out Michigan - I can only speak for the Ann Arbor area - but wow, compared to British Columbia (which has almost identical issues with salt, snow, freezing) - the roads there are really beaten up.

They even have a saying - there are two seasons in Michigan, Winter and Road Construction.

[plugin-baby]

Around San Francisco they’re noticeably worse than the well maintained parts of Europe.

[arbitrary_name]

Agreed, as someone who has lived in multiple western countries and US states...the roads around the bay area are horrendous. I try to drive in the fast lane to avoid the damage done to the slow lane by trucks.