[citilife]

I'm just going to go out on a limb -- unions in a artistic field are very difficult to maintain. There are alternatives to hiring (contract workers), plenty of would-be artists looking for work, now you have the AI competing. Finally, businesses can often do without the "best" art.

Where's the leverage? What theyre asking for is..

> so we walked—forgoing pay to fight for livable wages, codified diversity measures, and union security.

Oh boy...

> livable wages

I haven't seen the exact terms, but "livable wage" is often referred to, but very open ended. I'd never pay a person a "livable wage", I'd pay them fair market rate. Unfortunately, that's the reality. Most of the time, that's livable, but I cannot hire a 5 hour / week maid for a "livable wage", I hire them for the job they do.

This demand will push the company to use more contract labor IMO. There's hundreds of people looking for these roles / gigs, why deal with a union demanding rates higher than others would be willing to work for?

> codified diversity

This 100% of the time means incorporating some sort of "-ism" into the company. Might be an unpopular opinion in these parts, but the truth is that you cannot combat racism with racism. Setting up double-blind hiring practices might be possible or promotion boards, but in the end... it's more about culture and trying to look past physical traits (that said, fully support double-bling hiring/promotion methods).

In the end, the company might not legally be able to meet these demands. That said, many companies are doing illegal things like promoting based on race today.

> union security

Not sure what this means, but isn't this what union dues are supposed to cover?

[toyg]

> I'm just going to go out on a limb -- unions in a artistic field are very difficult to maintain.

Say bye to your limb: Hollywood is the poster child of unionization in an artistic field.

[gadflyinyoureye]

It’s also a stagnant environment that only exists because it’s so monies that all smaller artists are choked out at the theatres.

[JustSomeNobody]

> but I cannot hire a 5 hour / week maid for a "livable wage"

Nobody is asking you to. This isn't what anyone, not one single solitary person, is asking. Unless you're also asking your maid to sign a non-compete.

What a ... poor poor example just to make a point.

> Oh boy...

Indeed