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zx85wes | 3 years ago

Most european countries are rearming no? And Ukraine is just the start. EU/NATO expansionism & Russia pushing back is going to lead to wars in Belarus/Armenia/Georgia as well.

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gambiting|3 years ago

>> EU/NATO expansionism & Russia pushing back

I'm sorry, what? How can anyone write such absolute nonsense?

Russia attacked Ukraine. Ukraine wasn't going to join NATO, it was explicitly stated and agreed upon years ago. Finland and Norway weren't going to join NATO, because they had zero interest in doing so. But Russia attacked Ukraine, so they applied into NATO, it's a direct consequence of Russia's actions. That's not Russia "pushing back".

dmurray|3 years ago

> Norway weren't going to join NATO, because they had zero interest in doing so.

I'm sorry, what? How can anyone write such absolute nonsense?

Norway has been in NATO literally from day one in 1949. NATO membership is the main plank of its defence policy.

zx85wes|3 years ago

Nonsense? Ukraine applied for NATO membership in 2008. NATO didn't turn them down. It was pretty evident back then that this was going to lead to a conflict. Do I understand why Ukraine wants to join the EU and NATO? Yes, of course! Money&security! This war was obviously a huge mistake. He's turned Ukrainians who were sympathetic towards Russia against him because they too don't want war on their doorstep.

account42|3 years ago

NATO expansion means countries wanting to be in NATO. Seems to be mostly countries bordering Russia who really want to get in - I wonder why?