I came across a Cartrivision rewinder in a surplus store once. It was a simple device, with a motor, some limit switches, a key switch, and a counter. The counter tracked how many cartridges had been rewound, for billing purposes.
Other bad ideas of that era: Polaroid once developed a VHS cartridge with a mechanical counter of how many times it had been played. After some number of plays, the tape jammed.
In the early 80's, I modified a VHS cassette by placing a cylindrical high-strength magnet adjacent to the tape path on the takeup side. There was a nearly perfect pre-existing pocket in the case webbing to put the magnet with a dot of glue. The idea was to make a play-once, self-erasing cassette. Although not perfect, it was effective enough to really screw up the second playback. Probably screwed up the tape deck, too, but I don't recall any real evidence of that.
I have always wondered if it would be possible to build a generic reader for magnetic tapes that essentially just scans whatever tape you throw at it and then it is up to some software to decode the content. I know close to nothing about the details of magnetic recording on tape, so maybe this is just not possible with reasonable effort, i.e. you could but you would need SQUIDs to make it work or something like that.
You might be surprised at how the signals are actually recorded on tapes. For VHS tapes for example, it's actually a series of stacked "diagonal" lines of signal. Imagine a sequence of symbols like \\\\\\\\\\\, except at any given horizontal point along the tape there are about 5 stacked traces of signal. They're also diagonal on audio cassettes, but much less "slanted" relative to the tape's length.
I don't remember the precise terms for the various concepts, but hopefully that shows how specific to a given format the reader needs to be.
This is pretty much the only way 5.25" floppies are read today with modern equipment. While you can still get USB 3.5" floppy drives there are no USB 5.25" floppy drives. Modern PCs don't have the correct drive headers anymore, either, and even if they did, they wouldn't be able to read Commodore or Apple II floppies.
However, there is hardware and software called GreaseWeazle that actually reads the magnetic flux transitions on the disks to extract the data within.
For VHS there's the VHS-Decode project that's trying to do something similar. I don't think they work by scanning the tape itself with some custom hardware, but rather by recording some kind of internal RF drum head signal inside the VCR itself. Then they have a software stack to decode the VHS signal into actual video. Looks pretty cool, but I've never used it.
TechMoan has used a reel to reel player as a version of this for audio tape. A few obscure formats only fit in rare specialty players, so he's simply wound their internal tapes onto reels and digitized them that way.
This seems quite possible in principle, despite the different helical
scanning, tape widths, speeds and whatnot. A device at the British
Library archival research did similar for wax cylinders and old disc
records, scanning the physical surface with a small wavelength laser
interferometer. AFAIK it generated an obscene amount of point cloud
data.
My thought is that, if you could develop a sensor capable of sampling
magnetic alignment at sub-micrometer resolution it would also generate
unbelievable amounts of data that would first need compressing or
decoding into AV signals.
In theory you could have some sort of multi head or rasterizing system scan every bit of the tape and construct a 2D map of the magnetization. It would have to be 2D because many tape formats have multiple tracks, not even in parallel. But decoding that data would be a nightmare that made optical character recognition look like child's play.
I wondered the same. We have software-defined radio now, what's stopping us from having a software-defined magnetic media reader? You do need to scan the tape a very high spatial resolution though.
I was surprised to find that there is at least one working Cartrivision system out there[0] and the host of the video says to contact him if you have one you want fixed!
This is incredibly fascinating. The one thing I don't get is how the Cartrivision was used to record off of TV. Was it a built-in feature? Did they sell blanks? Or maybe it was some kind of hack?
EDIT: According to Wikipedia they did have a built-in record feature and the Wiki page even shows an image of a blank tape.
Before that it was DIVX, Digital Video Express (not the codec), who in the late 90s tried to create an alternative to video rentals: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIVX.
These red tapes feel like a ridiculous and cumbersome idea. Thinking about it, their concept won in the end though, in terms of media consumption and ownership...
Our current streaming services feel much more akin to these tapes, where you rely on a centralized entity to decide what you can watch and how, rather than infinitely repayable and transferable video tapes.
Somebody recently said the best phrase on the modern internet is "iTunes, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts" because podcasts are probably the most recent media-consumption technology where open standards won out and it's just a bunch of standardized data and metadata you can use as you like.
One fun fact I learned when I was toying with Laserdisc is why it was so popular in Japan: the humidity encourages video tape to grow mold[0] unless it's stored somewhere cool and dry. I would love the room to play with more of the obscure / dead video formats but Laserdisc is enough for me. Others here have recommended Techmoan[1] as a good source of vicariously seeing obsolete video formats.
Not about the format here; but I was interested in the image for “Brother Rat” downplaying Ronald Reagan’s billing, whereas the three posters available on IMDB has him basically on top billing.
This reminds me of Jay Bauman's rant about how VHS is a shit format when his Youtube team (RedLetterMedia) obliterated every VHS copy of Nukie they could find in a wood-chipper.
Too bad about the click bait title (I almost skipped reading because of it, but then I saw it was Foone), this is a great history lesson on technology and copyright stupidity!
Just wondering, am I getting downvoted because I correctly gender them, or because I’m happy to read content in a format that I can read without it being a mental issue for me?
Formats like this sort of reenforce Steve Albini's claim that he only records to tape because he's more certain people will be able to play it back hundreds of years from now than any other (digital) format. The tech is super simple and requires no proprietary anything. He believes that even the most open digital formats will become obscure and forgotten eventually and no one will really be able to playback lots of music that was only recorded that way.
> Formats like this sort of reenforce Steve Albini's claim that he only records to tape because he's more certain people will be able to play it back hundreds of years from now
This article seems like a pretty strong argument in the opposite direction: about a tape format which is effectively unreadable without significant heroics (to the extent that a documentary was made about trying to play one of these tapes.)
The format admittedly wasn't exactly successful, and I imagine more common formats would have better luck finding usable hardware. But even then, the tape still degrades.
If I really needed something to last a Very Long Time, I'd print it in highly redundant QR codes on lots of paper, and then also print the specs for QR codes and whatever other encodings were necessary.
> He believes that even the most open digital formats will become obscure and forgotten eventually and no one will really be able to playback lots of music that was only recorded that way.
Oh please. Just use raw PCM audio. No one will ever lose track of how to play that.
A 10.5 inch reel of 2 inch tape can be digitized just fine to 16 bit samples, 44/48kHz, 24 channels, most of an hour. That's about 7 gigabytes. So you could back up a huge number of digitized tapes to a dozen different locations quite easily. You could put a thousand of them on a pocket SSD.
We should start thinking more seriously about long-term preservation of digital data in general, and I think that one thing that would help a lot is to design our storage (not transmission) formats to include a detailed human-readable description of the format in its headers. Basically just a blob of text, not compressed in any way, something that would be immediately visible and parseable if you inspect the raw data. Depending on how detailed the spec is, this would be an overhead on the order of tens of kilobytes to a few megabytes - for storage, this is negligible, while the long-term benefits are clear.
Sherpix, the company that produced and distributed works by filmmakers as diverse as Paul Morrissey and Alex De Renzy in the late '60s and early '70s, inadvertently helped jump-start the short-lived "Porno Chic" trend with ADULTERY FOR FUN AND PROFIT. Grand prize winner at the second (and last) Wet Dream Film Festival in Amsterdam, sponsored by Suck Magazine which had none other than Germaine Greer amongst its editorial staff, it was the first narrative feature by Richard Robinson and a considerable step up from his "white coater" THE ABC'S OF MARRIAGE. Apparently, Robinson (a/k/a "Rick Jr.") had a thing about wedlock as his 1974 masterpiece MARRIAGE AND OTHER FOUR LETTER WORDS is anything to go by. With a happy go lucky script by E.E. Patchen, who would delve into far darker territory for Chris Warfield's sexploitation classic LITTLE MISS INNOCENCE, he seems more intent however on blowing this cornerstone of society to smithereens on this occasion.
Chunky California Casanova Richard (alleged one shot Frank Harris), with adorably chubby cheeks and great Bay City Rollers hair, has a lucrative sideline going, seducing married women on the brink of separation so their husbands won't have to put up alimony. His employer, a devious divorce lawyer (like there's any other kind !), is played by character actor John Dunn who supplemented his "respectable" work in movies like ANDY WARHOL'S BAD with non-sex appearances in skin flicks like LITTLE GIRLS (now wittily changed to WOMEN by Something Weird to avoid legal hassles !) GETTING AHEAD. This premise provides opportunities for successive sexual encounters with some of the genre's earliest and unjustly forgotten starlets. The classy platinum blonde with the great gams in scene 2 is Susan Westcott, also in Walt Davis' astonishing SEX PSYCHO and BLONDE IN BLACK LACE, an early Johnny Wadd entry by Bob Chinn. Richard charms her with the best pick up line ever, convincing her he makes "the most persuasive Martinis in town", adding "two olives for a pretty lady" pausing a beat "three for you !" How could she resist ? Lynn Holmes is the giggly blonde who was paired with namesake John in both SUPERSTUD and FOUR WOMEN IN TROUBLE and Casey Lorraine recycles her British bitch routine from Joe "Adele Robbins" Robertson's riotous romp LORD FARTHINGAY'S HOLIDAY as the story's catalyst, the dissatisfied wife who blackmails Rick into making it with her gay husband ! As envelope-pushing as early erotica may have been, this scene is suggested rather than shown.
Absolute best of show is an extended sequence that has Richard and a recent divorcée and former client (George Peters, who was in COMING WEST with "nudie cutie" royalty Maria Arnold and Sandy Carey) laying pipe with busty brunette Starlyn Simone from Dominic Bolla's memorably warped ANGEL ABOVE, THE DEVIL BELOW and delectable, fair-haired Rainbow Robbins, star of Robinson's subsequent MARRIAGE AND OTHER FOUR LETTER WORDS as well as Gerard Damiano's extremely obscure EVIL WAYS OF LOVE. They move from fireplace to shower and bedroom, exhibiting sustained erotic enthusiasm throughout, accompanied by several awesome tracks that sound suspiciously like library music even though a composer, Mario Litwin, is credited. This is also the most interesting scene visually as it allows the cinematographers, Sven Conrad and Robinson himself (as "David Worth"), to throw in a couple of clever compositions like both men back to back as they receive oral pleasure from their girlfriends in a nifty mirror image effect. Conrad remained to hone his skills within the industry, graduating to directing with some of the most eye-popping adult movies of the '80s (PINK CHAMPAGNE, BODY MAGIC, DOING IT !) and Robinson went on to helm POOR PRETTY EDDIE, one of the most notorious and hard to shake "blaxploitation" efforts ever.
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> So DuArt Media Services got to work trying to rescue the tape . . . . DuArt then made a documentary about this, called “Lost and Found: The ’73 Knicks Championship Tape”. It won an Emmy. The punchline? That documentary seems to be lost.
The IMDb page for the film [0] does appear to have an Emmy win as trivia, but I can't find anything about this documentary on the 2013 Sports Emmy Awards Wikipedia page [1] or its source [2].
It is not listed as 'Outstanding Sports Documentary' winner or even as nominee. Same for the 2014 Sports Emmy Awards.
ABC Britain made this probably amazing anthology series in 1962 called Out of This World [1].
I say probably because out of the 14 episodes made the only one left today is episode 3, Little Lost Robot [2], the first adaptation of Isaac Asimov's I, Robot. The reason we don't have the other episodes? Apparently ABC had this practice of wiping the tapes after the episodes aired. What could they have been possibly thinking.
So many treasure troves, art and otherwise, have been lost to carelessness; perhaps with the new found generatively hallucinatory powers of statistical learning we could see some restorative trend, a retro-magination, based on extant leftovers. Perhaps Aristotle did write a treatise on Comedy after all [3].
Is Hacker News secretly funded by J. K. Rowling? Was there a singular precipitating event that got trans folks pissed at HN? Is it a series of factors that I'd have to sift through millions of comments to understand??
It's fascinating. From what I've seen, OP's problem stems from:
* They post something. Someone links to the post here. Someone makes a comment here to the effect of "I think this about what he said". Someone else replies with "actually, it's 'they'". Shitstorm. Therefore, HN is populated primarily by transphobes.
* They post something on Twitter. Someone links to the tweet here. Someone comments on how they wish it was a blog rather than a series of tweets. Apparently the author feels personally attacked by such comments.
* They post something. Someone links to the post here. A Twitter bot tweets the article from here and @s them, therefore they have to keep blocking those bot accounts, and this is apparently HN's fault.
What I find fascinating is that, other than the bots thing, which is now irrelevant because apparently they don't use Twitter anymore, whether someone links to a post of theirs here or not has no effect on them unless they decide to come here and read what people say about it. It's an unusual case of extreme fragility and seemingly wishing to be punished. "Ow! The fire burns me! I should be able to stick my hand in the fire without being burned!"
> Is Hacker News secretly funded by J. K. Rowling?
Your comment will likely be nuked because HN posters and admins hide behind a thin veneer of faux-civility and a cognitive dissonance where both information wants to be free and also you're not allowed to point out that the vast majority of posters are bigoted morons. (because "politeness")
They tend to be like the libertarians who are only libertarian because they think it excuses their bigotry and shields it from criticism (or even examination) who then shed their ideals like a molting snake whenever it suits them.
So yeah, pretty much. JK Rowling is an individual who got very lucky by being at the right place at the right time who now thinks they are smarter than everyone else.
HN is quite transphobic. Any post they make devolves into harassment over that and (usually) pointless whining about the format their posts are usually made in (long tweet/toot threads).
edit: also I thought you were referring to buying a bootleg on ebay rather than to the pirate bay, which I'm 99.9% sure it won't be on. It is definitely available in the pirate community, though, because I checked.
I agree. After reading this article, that was the first thing I thought of. Copy protection mechanisms like these were downright obnoxious and it's no surprise that customers get sick of them and go with the cracked/pirated versions. Things like DiVX were doomed from the start.
This particular author seems to be frustrated by some repetitive and minimizing comments from HN in past discussions of their work. Part of the discussion used to be people sharing that twitter threads are annoying and not discussing the contents. [1] And there was a pattern of a few HN comments minimizing past posts saying "it's nothing new" as well as twitter bot spam. [2]
And in a way you've even proven foone right. You're insinuating that they are mentally ill. I don't know why you feel that it's okay to treat other humans like that, but I hope you get the help you deserve.
Foone is not the only one expressing this sentiment. Here's another recent example:
> Note: unfortunately, Hacker News found this post. I think I got them to go away. But if you're coming from there, please read about the parable of the Nazi bar and take a hard look at the company you keep, or just fuck off. Thanks.
> oh shit it's hacker news / I've heard that people from the orange VC site are linking to this post! You are absolutely not welcome here. Cohost is not a place for you. Your site is full of sexism and racism that you can't report to the main moderator because he approves of it. / you are bad and you hang out with white supremacists. please leave.
You should have more empathy for people, and rather than diagnose someone expressing a negative opinion about this community with mental illness, assume you might lack the necessary context with which to interpret their frustration.
You can find some of that context in the pile of flagged comments at the bottom of this thread, or any thread where foone's content is posted.
I just read your Twitter thread about HN linked here.
I hope that you'll notice how people here are just discussing the topic of your post and interested.
That people ranting about Twitter posts and pronouns are a vocal minority.
That many people actually appreciate your work and that ending up on the HN front page is a sign of this.
I understand and respect that you don't want to have to deal with this vocal minority who is not nice with you, but I wish they hadn't this much power. They don't only bother you but also a majority of us.
Most people silently read you, most are willing to honor your pronouns, too many of us need frequent reminders not to assume he/him, most people who don't like reading Twitter will not complain and just not read and that's fine.
Maybe HN guidelines could use some update to ask people to stop bitching on one's choice of pronouns and use of twitter to post things like you do. Plenty of tools exist to read them comfortably anyway.
In any case, a lot of love and of course you are free to not want to deal with HN as long as it is not an adequately welcoming place.
99% of people around me including close friends pretend sex, naughty bits and porn don't exist. It's this weird social norm black hole that makes other honest interactions feel less honest and more fake. And it's not a victim less thing either - like anything else that we pretend doesn't exist, it allows things and people and issues to fall through unspoken cracks.
Just like with any other topic in the world, if I don't want to hear details I don't need to hear details. And I really really don't want or need to hear 99% of details from more than. 99% percent of people :). But I'd like it to be a conscious choice not a social taboo of shame.
My 2 cents and note I wasn't born with this perspective - it took lots of work and many years to clear out my own social conditioning :-/
(that being said note that the article isn't even REMOTELY about pronography but an Interesting short anecdote about long lost video format and piece of television history. It's safe to read! Even if you're ashamed of your porn!:-)
Sexual shame damages people. I grew up in a Catholic household where my sex ed consisted of Focus On The Family's workbooks, and their blame and shame, sinful outlook on what turns out to be a normal part of most mammalian lives.
Echoing the sentiment of a sibling comment: this damaged me. I'm middle aged now, and some of residual shame-trauma still exists.
That shame mechanism is one of the things that enables sexual predators to repeatedly prey on others, because ashamed people don't report being sexually abused.
Fortunately, I didnt have to deal with that, but given my upbringing (Catholicism, Altar Boy, Boy Scouts), its just down to probability that I was lucky enough to not have been groomed by a pedophile.
We've banned this account for trolling (and for regularly breaking the site guidelines).
If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
I don't understand? Why would you post a blog on the public internet and then have an issue over it being shared? It's not like HN is reprinting it and the discussions are interesting.
I would not have know about this format if it hadn't been posted here.
I am not staff in any way, but in the spirit of the community, I would just like to point out the relevant guideline here.
> Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag, please don't also comment that you did.
The correct course of action if the article is inappropriate is to flag it. Same for transphobic comments.
> The internet respects nothing, but if respect were to be a thing, repeatedly posting Foone for your guaranteed upvotes probably merits you a lack of respect.
Just FWIW, as far as I can see, this is the very first time OP has posted content from foone. I assume they were oblivious.
This is a complicated problem for a news aggregator, but it won't be solved in this thread. Making off-topic comments is just going to fuel the flamewar I think.
capableweb|3 years ago
Animats|3 years ago
Other bad ideas of that era: Polaroid once developed a VHS cartridge with a mechanical counter of how many times it had been played. After some number of plays, the tape jammed.
Wistar|3 years ago
unknown|3 years ago
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msikora|3 years ago
betamaxthetape|3 years ago
danbruc|3 years ago
delecti|3 years ago
I don't remember the precise terms for the various concepts, but hopefully that shows how specific to a given format the reader needs to be.
cbm-vic-20|3 years ago
However, there is hardware and software called GreaseWeazle that actually reads the magnetic flux transitions on the disks to extract the data within.
https://github.com/keirf/greaseweazle
tbirdz|3 years ago
https://github.com/oyvindln/vhs-decode
koofdoof|3 years ago
nonrandomstring|3 years ago
My thought is that, if you could develop a sensor capable of sampling magnetic alignment at sub-micrometer resolution it would also generate unbelievable amounts of data that would first need compressing or decoding into AV signals.
pikminguy|3 years ago
grishka|3 years ago
getoffmyyawn|3 years ago
0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcpouZiZ4UE
standardUser|3 years ago
EDIT: According to Wikipedia they did have a built-in record feature and the Wiki page even shows an image of a blank tape.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartrivision
jayd16|3 years ago
sys32768|3 years ago
Reminded me of FlexPlay from 2003, "self destructing" DVDs for short-term rentals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexplay
cesarb|3 years ago
The first post recommended by tumblr at the bottom of this article was about FlexPlay (and DIVX): https://foone.tumblr.com/post/705631633513005056/so-regardin...
crunchyfrog|3 years ago
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIVX
agotterer|3 years ago
WirelessGigabit|3 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccneE_gkSAs
pessimizer|3 years ago
https://www.somethingweird.com/product_info.php?products_id=...
https://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=adultery+for+fun+and+pr...
http://distribpix.com/blog/adultery-fun-and-profit-1971
patapong|3 years ago
These red tapes feel like a ridiculous and cumbersome idea. Thinking about it, their concept won in the end though, in terms of media consumption and ownership...
Our current streaming services feel much more akin to these tapes, where you rely on a centralized entity to decide what you can watch and how, rather than infinitely repayable and transferable video tapes.
Pxtl|3 years ago
sneak|3 years ago
smackeyacky|3 years ago
[0]https://lunchmeatvhs.com/blogs/blog/rescue-your-awesome-anal...
[1]https://www.youtube.com/@Techmoan
labrador|3 years ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantalus
MissTake|3 years ago
Wonder what changed…
bigmattystyles|3 years ago
greenburger|3 years ago
Pxtl|3 years ago
https://twitter.com/JayBauman1/status/1613910812632186881
Basically, old magnetic video tape is such a bad format that the only sane approach of "preservation" is to destroy it and digitize it.
deafpolygon|3 years ago
What?
npteljes|3 years ago
In order to view the content, check this archive link:
https://archive.is/I00Gh
krupan|3 years ago
thiht|3 years ago
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unknown|3 years ago
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Semaphor|3 years ago
And yay! They are on tumblr! So much easier to read and I can subscribe to their posts.
[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28302722
Semaphor|3 years ago
amelius|3 years ago
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nemo44x|3 years ago
jesboat|3 years ago
This article seems like a pretty strong argument in the opposite direction: about a tape format which is effectively unreadable without significant heroics (to the extent that a documentary was made about trying to play one of these tapes.)
The format admittedly wasn't exactly successful, and I imagine more common formats would have better luck finding usable hardware. But even then, the tape still degrades.
If I really needed something to last a Very Long Time, I'd print it in highly redundant QR codes on lots of paper, and then also print the specs for QR codes and whatever other encodings were necessary.
Dylan16807|3 years ago
Oh please. Just use raw PCM audio. No one will ever lose track of how to play that.
A 10.5 inch reel of 2 inch tape can be digitized just fine to 16 bit samples, 44/48kHz, 24 channels, most of an hour. That's about 7 gigabytes. So you could back up a huge number of digitized tapes to a dozen different locations quite easily. You could put a thousand of them on a pocket SSD.
int_19h|3 years ago
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tezza|3 years ago
eternalban|3 years ago
https://www.imdb.com/review/rw1817219
An informative review (8/10 rating)
* The Happy Home Wrecker
10 February 2008
Sherpix, the company that produced and distributed works by filmmakers as diverse as Paul Morrissey and Alex De Renzy in the late '60s and early '70s, inadvertently helped jump-start the short-lived "Porno Chic" trend with ADULTERY FOR FUN AND PROFIT. Grand prize winner at the second (and last) Wet Dream Film Festival in Amsterdam, sponsored by Suck Magazine which had none other than Germaine Greer amongst its editorial staff, it was the first narrative feature by Richard Robinson and a considerable step up from his "white coater" THE ABC'S OF MARRIAGE. Apparently, Robinson (a/k/a "Rick Jr.") had a thing about wedlock as his 1974 masterpiece MARRIAGE AND OTHER FOUR LETTER WORDS is anything to go by. With a happy go lucky script by E.E. Patchen, who would delve into far darker territory for Chris Warfield's sexploitation classic LITTLE MISS INNOCENCE, he seems more intent however on blowing this cornerstone of society to smithereens on this occasion.
Chunky California Casanova Richard (alleged one shot Frank Harris), with adorably chubby cheeks and great Bay City Rollers hair, has a lucrative sideline going, seducing married women on the brink of separation so their husbands won't have to put up alimony. His employer, a devious divorce lawyer (like there's any other kind !), is played by character actor John Dunn who supplemented his "respectable" work in movies like ANDY WARHOL'S BAD with non-sex appearances in skin flicks like LITTLE GIRLS (now wittily changed to WOMEN by Something Weird to avoid legal hassles !) GETTING AHEAD. This premise provides opportunities for successive sexual encounters with some of the genre's earliest and unjustly forgotten starlets. The classy platinum blonde with the great gams in scene 2 is Susan Westcott, also in Walt Davis' astonishing SEX PSYCHO and BLONDE IN BLACK LACE, an early Johnny Wadd entry by Bob Chinn. Richard charms her with the best pick up line ever, convincing her he makes "the most persuasive Martinis in town", adding "two olives for a pretty lady" pausing a beat "three for you !" How could she resist ? Lynn Holmes is the giggly blonde who was paired with namesake John in both SUPERSTUD and FOUR WOMEN IN TROUBLE and Casey Lorraine recycles her British bitch routine from Joe "Adele Robbins" Robertson's riotous romp LORD FARTHINGAY'S HOLIDAY as the story's catalyst, the dissatisfied wife who blackmails Rick into making it with her gay husband ! As envelope-pushing as early erotica may have been, this scene is suggested rather than shown.
Absolute best of show is an extended sequence that has Richard and a recent divorcée and former client (George Peters, who was in COMING WEST with "nudie cutie" royalty Maria Arnold and Sandy Carey) laying pipe with busty brunette Starlyn Simone from Dominic Bolla's memorably warped ANGEL ABOVE, THE DEVIL BELOW and delectable, fair-haired Rainbow Robbins, star of Robinson's subsequent MARRIAGE AND OTHER FOUR LETTER WORDS as well as Gerard Damiano's extremely obscure EVIL WAYS OF LOVE. They move from fireplace to shower and bedroom, exhibiting sustained erotic enthusiasm throughout, accompanied by several awesome tracks that sound suspiciously like library music even though a composer, Mario Litwin, is credited. This is also the most interesting scene visually as it allows the cinematographers, Sven Conrad and Robinson himself (as "David Worth"), to throw in a couple of clever compositions like both men back to back as they receive oral pleasure from their girlfriends in a nifty mirror image effect. Conrad remained to hone his skills within the industry, graduating to directing with some of the most eye-popping adult movies of the '80s (PINK CHAMPAGNE, BODY MAGIC, DOING IT !) and Robinson went on to helm POOR PRETTY EDDIE, one of the most notorious and hard to shake "blaxploitation" efforts ever. *
shp0ngle|3 years ago
philwelch|3 years ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34631203
unknown|3 years ago
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TheRealPomax|3 years ago
NotYourLawyer|3 years ago
I'm just speechless.
funwares|3 years ago
It is not listed as 'Outstanding Sports Documentary' winner or even as nominee. Same for the 2014 Sports Emmy Awards.
[0] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2883206/
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/34th_Sports_Emmy_Awards
[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20131118154841/http://www.emmyon...
ly3xqhl8g9|3 years ago
I say probably because out of the 14 episodes made the only one left today is episode 3, Little Lost Robot [2], the first adaptation of Isaac Asimov's I, Robot. The reason we don't have the other episodes? Apparently ABC had this practice of wiping the tapes after the episodes aired. What could they have been possibly thinking.
So many treasure troves, art and otherwise, have been lost to carelessness; perhaps with the new found generatively hallucinatory powers of statistical learning we could see some restorative trend, a retro-magination, based on extant leftovers. Perhaps Aristotle did write a treatise on Comedy after all [3].
[1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0163475/?ref_=fn_al_tt_4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_This_World_(British_TV_...
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-RX1GT4GT0
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Name_of_the_Rose#:~:text=T....
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NautilusWave|3 years ago
deadbeeves|3 years ago
* They post something. Someone links to the post here. Someone makes a comment here to the effect of "I think this about what he said". Someone else replies with "actually, it's 'they'". Shitstorm. Therefore, HN is populated primarily by transphobes.
* They post something on Twitter. Someone links to the tweet here. Someone comments on how they wish it was a blog rather than a series of tweets. Apparently the author feels personally attacked by such comments.
* They post something. Someone links to the post here. A Twitter bot tweets the article from here and @s them, therefore they have to keep blocking those bot accounts, and this is apparently HN's fault.
What I find fascinating is that, other than the bots thing, which is now irrelevant because apparently they don't use Twitter anymore, whether someone links to a post of theirs here or not has no effect on them unless they decide to come here and read what people say about it. It's an unusual case of extreme fragility and seemingly wishing to be punished. "Ow! The fire burns me! I should be able to stick my hand in the fire without being burned!"
EDIT: Relevant Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1440375176604966924?s=20
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rocket_surgeron|3 years ago
Your comment will likely be nuked because HN posters and admins hide behind a thin veneer of faux-civility and a cognitive dissonance where both information wants to be free and also you're not allowed to point out that the vast majority of posters are bigoted morons. (because "politeness")
They tend to be like the libertarians who are only libertarian because they think it excuses their bigotry and shields it from criticism (or even examination) who then shed their ideals like a molting snake whenever it suits them.
So yeah, pretty much. JK Rowling is an individual who got very lucky by being at the right place at the right time who now thinks they are smarter than everyone else.
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edit: also I thought you were referring to buying a bootleg on ebay rather than to the pirate bay, which I'm 99.9% sure it won't be on. It is definitely available in the pirate community, though, because I checked.
RajT88|3 years ago
It seems possible indeed to obtain the film there and view it.
You know. For science.
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knaik94|3 years ago
Edit: They also posted further down: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34634289
The original article can also be seen if you just go their tumblr homepage as they made a copy of it.
https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1440695609913053194
https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1310434318490034176
lando2319|3 years ago
This appears to be a special message just for us.
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xyzzy_plugh|3 years ago
Here's a past explanation foone's position: https://twitter.com/foone/status/1440697266059153439
And in a way you've even proven foone right. You're insinuating that they are mentally ill. I don't know why you feel that it's okay to treat other humans like that, but I hope you get the help you deserve.
nayuki|3 years ago
> Note: unfortunately, Hacker News found this post. I think I got them to go away. But if you're coming from there, please read about the parable of the Nazi bar and take a hard look at the company you keep, or just fuck off. Thanks.
-- https://cohost.org/arborelia/post/868933-how-to-destroy-a-ce...
Previous edit (private archive):
> oh shit it's hacker news / I've heard that people from the orange VC site are linking to this post! You are absolutely not welcome here. Cohost is not a place for you. Your site is full of sexism and racism that you can't report to the main moderator because he approves of it. / you are bad and you hang out with white supremacists. please leave.
HN thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34446704
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krapp|3 years ago
You can find some of that context in the pile of flagged comments at the bottom of this thread, or any thread where foone's content is posted.
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jraph|3 years ago
I just read your Twitter thread about HN linked here.
I hope that you'll notice how people here are just discussing the topic of your post and interested.
That people ranting about Twitter posts and pronouns are a vocal minority.
That many people actually appreciate your work and that ending up on the HN front page is a sign of this.
I understand and respect that you don't want to have to deal with this vocal minority who is not nice with you, but I wish they hadn't this much power. They don't only bother you but also a majority of us.
Most people silently read you, most are willing to honor your pronouns, too many of us need frequent reminders not to assume he/him, most people who don't like reading Twitter will not complain and just not read and that's fine.
Maybe HN guidelines could use some update to ask people to stop bitching on one's choice of pronouns and use of twitter to post things like you do. Plenty of tools exist to read them comfortably anyway.
In any case, a lot of love and of course you are free to not want to deal with HN as long as it is not an adequately welcoming place.
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NikolaNovak|3 years ago
99% of people around me including close friends pretend sex, naughty bits and porn don't exist. It's this weird social norm black hole that makes other honest interactions feel less honest and more fake. And it's not a victim less thing either - like anything else that we pretend doesn't exist, it allows things and people and issues to fall through unspoken cracks.
Just like with any other topic in the world, if I don't want to hear details I don't need to hear details. And I really really don't want or need to hear 99% of details from more than. 99% percent of people :). But I'd like it to be a conscious choice not a social taboo of shame.
My 2 cents and note I wasn't born with this perspective - it took lots of work and many years to clear out my own social conditioning :-/
(that being said note that the article isn't even REMOTELY about pronography but an Interesting short anecdote about long lost video format and piece of television history. It's safe to read! Even if you're ashamed of your porn!:-)
p0pcult|3 years ago
Echoing the sentiment of a sibling comment: this damaged me. I'm middle aged now, and some of residual shame-trauma still exists.
That shame mechanism is one of the things that enables sexual predators to repeatedly prey on others, because ashamed people don't report being sexually abused.
Fortunately, I didnt have to deal with that, but given my upbringing (Catholicism, Altar Boy, Boy Scouts), its just down to probability that I was lucky enough to not have been groomed by a pedophile.
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dang|3 years ago
If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
sschueller|3 years ago
I would not have know about this format if it hadn't been posted here.
jsnell|3 years ago
And if it does, the complaints can be flagged instead of the post.
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jchw|3 years ago
> Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag, please don't also comment that you did.
The correct course of action if the article is inappropriate is to flag it. Same for transphobic comments.
> The internet respects nothing, but if respect were to be a thing, repeatedly posting Foone for your guaranteed upvotes probably merits you a lack of respect.
Just FWIW, as far as I can see, this is the very first time OP has posted content from foone. I assume they were oblivious.
This is a complicated problem for a news aggregator, but it won't be solved in this thread. Making off-topic comments is just going to fuel the flamewar I think.
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