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thrownawaydad | 3 years ago

Not OP, but consider illegal immigration. It is apparently leading to a surge in child sex trafficking, among other ills.

But, being against illegal immigration is currently considered "right wing", and in a lot of contexts will get you fired, vilified, and perhaps beaten.

There's your example.

(I'm a child of immigrants, and don't particularly have an opinion of how much immigration is good. I do, though, believe this amount should be determined by legislative process and then tightly enforced.)

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minsc_and_boo|3 years ago

You're mixing up terms here.

Being against legal immigration and implementing policies to make it more difficult to become legal (as the right has done) has lead to the enslavement of immigrant women and other sex trafficking. Being against sane and fair immigration policies is what people react to.

Everyone is against illegal immigration and child sex trafficking, but vary vastly on the solutions.

thrownawaydad|3 years ago

Re "Everyone is against illegal immigration", I don't think that that is close to true at present. You will search in vain to find a left-leaning Congressional Representative that will pronounce that they are against illegal immigration.

A dirty secret of many Republicans is that they're pretty okay with illegal immigration as it's been in the 80s and 90s. Pseudo slave labor, deport as needed, etc. Needless to say, this seems unethical (even if the immigrants in question might be okay with it).

We have no better solution than to let our legislature fight this out. But, whatever laws they come up with need to be followed and strictly enforced. Failure to do so has led to abject misery, and it will only get worse.

You might not agree with the law, but the alternative is leading to far worse suffering. Ironically, the fentanyl crisis will probably turn the tide, rather than pedestrian ethical concerns.

(I'm quite old, so don't really have a dog in this fight, aside from a general well wish for the young. Beyond that, I was a "far-left" Green for most of my years. I've not changed much, but the world sure has.)

MrMan|3 years ago

we need to return to the very high levels of immigration we had in the 19th century, it would really help our population and economy to grow. it will help the country a lot in the long term

erichocean|3 years ago

> we need to return to the very high levels of immigration we had in the 19th century

As a percentage of the total population, now is the highest level of immigration the US has ever experienced going back to the founding of the country.

The previous maximum was prior to the 1924 immigration act which effectively banned the practice for 40 years.