[udfalkso]

It’s def a solid option esp. if you’re very familiar with it already.

But, I think Elixir/Phoenix beats it handily at this point for someone starting from scratch with either one or that is willing to spend a week or two learning something new.

[NhanH]

Elixir and Phoenix is wonderful, but it is not comparable to rails when it comes to pure productivity — Rails is much better. And if you include hotwire into the mix, it is not anywhere a close comparison. Liveview is not comparable due to tech difference (websocket and low lantency requirement), as well as an additional complexity on top of phoenix (you add liveview and your productivity will be affected).

Don’t get me wrong, I would still pick Phoenix a lot of the time over rails, but that is despite the lower productivity. Sometimes even Phoenix + hotwire is not a bad idea.

[udfalkso]

Speak for yourself? I personally find I’m much more productive with elixir/phoenix and the end result is much more performant. (I say this having built multiple large projects with rails in the past)