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People aren't anti-science, no one cares about a bunch of papers saying vaccines are / aren't effective, people care that you aren't allowed to go to a restaurant without you're vaccination papers or mask, that's not science, that's politics / policy.

Also, it turns out that many of the risks of the vaccine were understated or unknown. That's also not science. And it's especially not science when the "anti-science" people proposed a theory that turned out to be right. Namely, that the risks of the vaccine are not known / being understated.

And yes, a lot of the anti-vax activists also publish a whole bunch of non-scientific bs.

I like vaccines, I got vaccinated, and it pisses me off that the anti-vax people we're right about the risks being unknown / understated. I dunno if I'm still pro-COVID vaccine, but I never thought it was right that people who didn't want the vaccine couldn't enjoy the same rights as those who did. My thoughts were I'm vaccinated, I'm protected, if you want to get COVID without a vaccine, that's your business.

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Care to cite an actual example of a COVID vaccine study that didn't have a caveat about what risks might still be unknown?

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I cite its approval. Again, "the science" mostly revolves around policy, instead of you know, science.

"The science" as presented popularly regarding the COVID vaccines was that the risks were low and it less risky for anyone of any age group to get vaccinated rather than risk COVID, that turned out to be false. For some age groups, especially young people its less risky to get COVID, especially omicron, than to get vaccinated. The messaging still hasn't really changed in this regard.

Either way no matter the risk of COVID, the lockdowns, and vaccine passes, and mask mandates were ridiculous and very unscientific.