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kyeb | 3 years ago

I'd be super interested to see an analysis using exactly the same methodology as this performed on various other cities (SF, NYC, LA, maybe some European cities like Amsterdam or Cologne) for comparison. I would bet Seattle is near the top for the US in walkability (probably behind NYC only)

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tobiasdorge|3 years ago

I can’t imagine Seattle being more dense than San Francisco, though I can imagine it’s in the top 5

hiidrew|3 years ago

it makes the top 10 according to this: https://www.walkscore.com/cities-and-neighborhoods/

honestly surprised that SF is more walkable than NYC with this criteria

tomtheelder|3 years ago

I think that’s because of where the city is defined. SF is just SF- it doesn’t extend that far south and doesn’t even include the east bay. NYC on the other hand includes big areas like east Queens and Staten Island that are effectively just suburbs.

I’ve lived in both and if you’re sort of near the core then NYC is much, much more walkable than SF.

Aunche|3 years ago

SF is a much smaller city. Areas in NYC not connected to the subway tend not to be particularly walkable like Staten Island.

powersnail|3 years ago

SF is walkable if elevation is not a problem for you. Some slopes are so steep that it's like hiking up a trail.

At least it isn't like San Jose or Newark, where sidewalks just aren't there along some roads, in residential area, or suddenly cut short in the middle of a block where you have to walk back to the previous crossing for an alternative route. And there are _so many_ dead ends without warning. So many.

ackfoobar|3 years ago

Depending on the boundary of the city, it might not be an apple-to-apple comparison.

I wonder if NYC will rank higher if Staten Island is excluded. Not that I have anything against it, just that judging from the heat map it is less walkable than the rest.

It's similar in Canada too. Toronto is the megacity (1998 amalgamation) including some suburbs; Vancouver does not include Richmond; Montreal has weird holes like Westmount.

ghaff|3 years ago

I'm guessing because NYC is not just Manhattan.

petetheheat|3 years ago

SF top neighborhood: Tenderloin.

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