Hackers interrupt Iran president’s TV speech on anniversary of revolution

[brap]

As much as I want to see the Islamic Republic collapse, and as much as I do believe it will collapse in the next few years, to me this hack[1] seems state-sponsored. It looks like professionals trying to look like amateurs. Not a bad thing, though. Iranians need all the help they can get.

[1] https://twitter.com/EdaalateAli1400/status/16243732348366684...

[the_af]

The collapse of the Islamic Republic will likely bring much misery, upheaval and deaths. Why wish for this from the comfort of our countries?

If the collapse comes with a power vacuum and the resurgence of competing fundamentalist groups, this wouldn't be helping any Iranians. Last time Western powers meddled, it resulted in the Islamic Revolution, after all.

[favaq]

Just by reading the article title my mind went directly to "CIA"

[kris_wayton]

Do you mean as a sort of sponsored/approved false flag, or just that thoughts of revolution are reaching up into institutions?

[tempaccount420]

Could this be a false flag/sabotage by Iran itself? I don't know what the video says, but it's pretty scary, with the spooky mask moving up and down as the woman speaks in a deep voice.

Imagine if children were watching this, would it not leave a scar on them and make them less likely to support protesters when they grow up?

[bredren]

It does look professionally unpolished. So much so, I hope it is not authentic or it missed the mark.

Is there any prior verified Iranian art of the max headroom style asthetic shown here that might make this more believable?

[Alir3z4]

> I do believe it will collapse in the next few years

Has been said for the last 44 years.

[lr4444lr]

Define "few".

[stevev]

It’s hard to enforce such ideologies on women who are exposed to the freedoms of their counterparts in other countries.

These morality police or institutions should have been long gone. Such strict rules would pave ways for abuse.

Suppression of cultural changes are bloody and will cost a nation years of progress.

They ought to embrace changes and unlock the abilities that lies in half of their population.

[_fat_santa]

> They ought to embrace changes and unlock the abilities that lies in half of their population.

I would say that's the problem. A bright future for Iran is a future that does not include his dictatorship. They know if they embrace change, they will be the first to be ousted.

[duxup]

I wonder how hard it is. Lots of places women and men have fewer rights.

[sillystuff]

> Security forces have responded with a deadly crackdown to the protests, among the strongest challenges to the Islamic Republic since the 1979 revolution ended 2,500 years of monarchy.

Iran had a democratically elected government in 1953 when the US and UK overthrew their democracy, and installed the dictator/monarch, the Shaw.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/19/cia-admits-rol...

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/iran/2017-08-08/1953...

[enkid]

The monarch wasn't installed in that there was a monarch in the Iran before 1953, and it wasn't really all that much of a democracy at the time. Its not like Iran was a well running democracy, then the US overthrew it's president and set up a monarch. I'm not defending the US's actions,just pointing out your comment seems to be implying Iran didn't have a monarch and then the US installed one. It's more like the US supported one part of the government in not undertaking necessary reforms, even though those reforms were popular, which then shifted power away from another part of the government.

[luckylion]

The monarchy hadn't stopped, and the Shah was still the monarch before, during and after Mosaddegh's time as Prime Minister. The Shah got more powers concentrated on him during the coup d'état, but you make it sound like the monarchy hadn't existed before 1953.

[varjag]

It was still a monarchy during the 1953 ousting of Shah.

[cm2187]

A democracy that was turning into a dictatorship, just like under Allende, Chavez or Castillo.

And a monarchy isn't incompatible with a democracy.

[api]

This was the “if you can fog glass and are anti-communist we support you” era.

A lot of the bad stuff from the 20th century stems from hysterical overreaction to communism.

[ivraatiems]

Well, I guess since the US did a bad thing one time we'd better give these nice religious authoritarians a pass, huh?

Though I'll agree the way it's phrased in the submitted article is misleading, your comment mostly comes off as needless whataboutism.

[0xDEF]

That is true. And then the West pushed the Shah to losen up control and become less authoritarian which enabled the Islamic Revolution.

There is a reason a lot of countries verbally lash out when the US/EU or Western NGOs accuse them of being too authoritarian. The alternative to authoritarianism is often worse.

The CIA should stop meddling in other countries. But the same goes for Western governments and NGOs. The latter is often worse than the former.

[slim]

the Shah

[afarrell]

> A voice shouted "Death to the Islamic Republic"

This sounds like a source of fear that is likely to motivate people to seek security and stability. I imagine it would remind people of the threat they've been told their community faces from the countries which created Stuxnet, and the weapons carried by Saddam Hussein's army, and the 1953 coup against Mossadeq.

I imagine it would motivate Iranian men to stand together to serve as protectors of the stability of their community and to tolerate the flaws of their leaders.

I imagine it would stand in the way of freedom-loving Iranians trying to create an alternate vision of Iranian civic virtue.

[wl]

It's an idiom.

https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=31116

[actionfromafar]

Iran is currently in a position where nothing but violent resistance is likely to have an effect. The people in charge live safely in gated communities or abroad and have no shame, protestor deaths in the streets don't faze them even a little bit.

[rjzzleep]

A lot of Iranians got really upset when the son of the Shah tried to hijack the movement to become "the representative" of the Iranian reforms.

[dtx1]

HACK THE PLANET!

[NetOpWibby]

DedSec?

[_lnwk]

I remember hearing about similar things from my parents during communist occupation in Poland.

[bailoon]

"Hackers". Yeah right. Do these "hackers" happen to work for the governments trying to destabilize iran by any chance?

[propagandist]

That's purely conspiratorial and fact-free. It also has nothing to do with your charged language.

[rfrey]

I think it's unlikely Iranian women are risking arrest and execution by protesting inadequate manicures in prisons.

[icare_1er]

Well done boys!