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kiddz | 3 years ago

It seems like the reporting is that two out of three objects are said not to be balloons. I don’t know of any terrestrial technology that can be that large (size of car) aloft for multiple hours/days that hovers. Am I correctly groking the news here?

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idlewords|3 years ago

No, you're not. The descriptions are consistent with these objects being balloons or dirugibles. The terrestrial technology that can keep a cylinder the size of a car afloat for days is called "hydrogen".

piloto_ciego|3 years ago

I don’t think this is correct… a thousand cubic feet of hydrogen is 68lbs of buoyancy at sea level.

A cylinder that was 20’ long, and 5’ in radius (which is a lot bigger than my minivan - would be about 1570 cubic feet.

That could lift about 100lbs at sea level… at flight level 400… that’s going to have to be a huge balloon to lift 100 lbs or the payload has to be tiny tiny - which is possible but I don’t think something the size of a car is adequate.

reso|3 years ago

I wouldn't make any conclusions yet given that they haven't recovered the wreckage yet.

That being said, ultralight glider technology is actually really good. It is plausible with ultralight materials you could build a car-sized thing, put it on some kind of solar-powered glider and keep it in the air for a long time.

alecfreudenberg|3 years ago

this is what I'm seeing as well.

pilot selection of aim9 over guns due to difficulty/risk of engagement is concerning. would really like recoverable intel, or at least some more detailed assessment prior to engagement.

I'm assuming this information is just not being released, but it begs for obvious scrutiny.

we want a picture

theteapot|3 years ago

Car sized balloons. Gliders. "Hover" is conjecture.

kiddz|3 years ago

I say hover because the pentagon is saying the same object was seen twice in two days. . . The day before it was in Montana then 24 plus hours later in Michigan.

“A unidentified object has been shot down by U.S. forces over Lake Huron, according to the Department of Defense. The object appears to be the same object that had been detected over Montana a day earlier, said officials.“

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/12/1156428862/us-shoot-down-ufo-...