Yes it does need to be filled, for the journalist and tech writes who scour hacker news for their latest blog posts. Not too leave out the random person who discovers Hacker News today.
I've never seen a news post which exemplifies the idea that the comments can be worth more than the article. Obviously this isn't news to any-one here but it gives a place to discuss the changes.
Actually, I had no idea it was blacked out. I use a CSS reset to make the whole website green-on-black without images like it's an old mainframe system.
I'm not from the US. Is there anything I can do to help oppose SOPA/PIPA?
So far I've assumed I'm not eligible to call US senators/ congressmen, or sign the whitehouse.gov petition. Am I wrong about this? Is there anything else I can do instead?
All the blackout messages I've seen today don't appear to have much info for the rest of the English-speaking world about what we can do to help.
The goal here is not blackout per se but to defeat these bills. Fully blacking out HN would hurt more than help. It wouldn't make more people aware of the problem, because everyone here is already aware of it. But it would make the site less useful as a place to discuss techniques to fight it.
In the protest movement, there are those who self-immolate, suicide, or hunger strike. There are also those who rally in the streets, fly flags, wear ribbons, or armbands.
What matters is solidarity and communicating the message.
Given that I've heard discussion of SOPA/PIPA on NPR, BBC, and The New York Times already, notice has been made.
SOPA leads Google News, and I see 3800+ articles on it now. I expect more to follow. Google Trends and the news timeline are also informative:
http://bit.ly/zRA1w4 (original link is far too long).
It strikes me as a reasonable compromise. It seems pg was paying attention to the recent poll, where quite a few HN readers expressed support for HN joining in the blackout, but where there were some good arguments for not blacking out HN today. By just blacking out the logo, it provides a stark reminder of the situation to any HN readers who needed reminding, but it doesn't take the site completely offline. Makes sense, since there were some good arguments that taking a niche site like HN offline wouldn't do much good anyway.
I dunno, I'm guessing pg just decided to go for a pragmatic, but still principled, stand. <shrug />
Even though probably everyone who frequents HN is already aware of SOPA/PIPA, I think it's more a show of solidarity with others participating (Wiki/Google) and a "lead by example" case rather than the idea that it might make a huge difference in the same way that some of these bigger players will.
Hacker News should go dark for the day. Site participation in the blackout is not just to inform users but to garner news media coverage of SOPA. Thousands of conscientious sites around the net are participating but Hacker News isn't.
It's a good thing that twitter is not blocked, it helps spread the news about the protest. They could add at least a small notice though. Blacking out hacker news is mostly symbolic preaching to the choir.
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Really - Does the front page need to be filled with this stuff? We're aware of it already. Is it really that exciting?
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So far I've assumed I'm not eligible to call US senators/ congressmen, or sign the whitehouse.gov petition. Am I wrong about this? Is there anything else I can do instead?
All the blackout messages I've seen today don't appear to have much info for the rest of the English-speaking world about what we can do to help.
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In the protest movement, there are those who self-immolate, suicide, or hunger strike. There are also those who rally in the streets, fly flags, wear ribbons, or armbands.
What matters is solidarity and communicating the message.
Given that I've heard discussion of SOPA/PIPA on NPR, BBC, and The New York Times already, notice has been made.
SOPA leads Google News, and I see 3800+ articles on it now. I expect more to follow. Google Trends and the news timeline are also informative: http://bit.ly/zRA1w4 (original link is far too long).
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I dunno, I'm guessing pg just decided to go for a pragmatic, but still principled, stand. <shrug />
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[1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/sopa-twitt...
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