[myalphabet]

Despite the impression that Amazon is a hellplace, it remains one of the most desired places in the world for software engineers to work, so being "worse than Amazon" isn't saying much.

Walmart's tech side of things is very highly regarded both for the work, as well for the pay. They pay $200-300k for people from 5-10/yrs experience, which despite being below FAANG level, still puts it squarely among the top paying companies for software development.

[Jcowell]

> it remains one of the most desired places in the world for software engineers to work

The word desired here feels weird to me. I just wouldn’t describe it as people desiring to work there. People desire to work at Apple. People desire to work at Meta even.

Amazon to me seems kinda like a pit stop FAANG wise? Maybe it’s the PIP culture there that taints my view

[schreiaj]

They are also a great place to cut your teeth on the FAANG type problems because, as it turns out, they face similar scale issues.

There's a lot of "second tier" tech companies that have some really cool problems at massive scales that also pay really well. Not as obviously sexy as FAANGs though.