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ccn0p | 3 years ago

what's crazy to me is how terrible of a track record big pharma has in being even moderately uncorrupted, and yet when it comes to vaccines, sprinkle in a bit of fear and suddenly we're supposed to trust their studies and superbowl commercials.

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pdntspa|3 years ago

I would think that, with the number of people who received it, any issues would have been sussed out by now

logicalmonster|3 years ago

> I would think that, with the number of people who received it, any issues would have been sussed out by now

A large sample size means less if the problems are longer-term in nature such as an increase in cancer rates down the road or problems with fertility, which might take more time to fully detect and understand.

And a large sample size means little without a control group: yet if some people had their way, there'd be no control group left.

TMWNN|3 years ago

ranitidine was a very, very, very widely used drug. Yet it took 40 years!

RobotToaster|3 years ago

That doesn't account for long term side effects, that may only be seen years, or decades, later.

Of course, catching covid may also have unknown long term side effects, like how some who caught Spanish flu went on to develop encephalitis lethargica.

Vaccinated or not you're part of what is effectively the largest post marketing clinical study, either as the treatment or control group. Science is fun like that.

themitigating|3 years ago

Since the vast majority of medicine produced isn't like this situation how do they have bad track record.

Also each company is independent.

lostlogin|3 years ago

They have a bad track record. Look at the controversy section of their wiki, and this is just for GSK.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSK_plc

jjeaff|3 years ago

Except we aren't just trusting the pharma companies. In the case of COVID vaccines, it is one of the most broadly studied things on the planet at this point.

If we had this much money and this many eyes on studying and testing Zantac, I have no doubt they wouldn't have been able to keep the cancer risks secret.

throwaway29812|3 years ago

Exactly. COVID vaccines are the most studied medical treatment in the world. No one is asking you to blindly trust anyone, but if you are going to question something, be aware of the amount of work being done to either prove or disprove claims.

hammock|3 years ago

What risks have all those studies found in COVID vaccines?