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chronial | 3 years ago

> Are you saying that the same positions would count as "center" in Europe while "left" in the US?

Not GP, but yes – that is clearly the case.

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TheFragenTaken|3 years ago

I agree with this one. From a European standpoint, there is right-center, and more-right in the US.

0xblood|3 years ago

Can you give me an example of such a position? I would argue that, for example, social programs in Europe are more popular, but still following a left-leaning position that is just more broadly accepted

fabian2k|3 years ago

Having universal health insurance available for everyone is a consensus opinion in Germany, no party disagrees with that. In the US "socialized medicine" is a controversial topic.

chronial|3 years ago

I would say of the top of my head:

• Employee rights

• Health insurance

• Militarism ("What is an appropriate amount to spend on military")

• Global Warming

tinco|3 years ago

Well even if you disregard ideologies, just the legislations that are in place influence what the center of a position could be.

For example in my country our right wing government had made good on a right wing promise to increase the maximum highway speed from 120kph to 130kph.

Some years later however it turned out that the presence of highways contributed to dangerous levels of nitric oxides (edited from nitrogen) in the air and a judge forced that same administration to reduce the maximum speed from 130kph to 100kph.

Now legislation (and reality) has changed a right wing position from being "disregard the environment, prioritise economy and increase the speed" to "disregard health, prioritise economy and increase the speed". The same position was basically transformed into a more extreme position due to the circumstances changing.

I imagine that same thing holds for many topics. It sure feels a lot more extreme to advocate gun regulation when doing so in opposition of school shooting victims. I generally support the idea of gun ownership, but the shootings definitely forced me to have a more nuanced opinion that shifted my position from the conservative side to the progressive side.

istinetz|3 years ago

Lmao no. Eastern Europe is definitely more right wing than the US on the social axis, and this is probably also true for westies.

jibbirish|3 years ago

This heavily depends on which part of policies you take into account. Many European countries are shifting to the right concerning migration. But when looking at the fiscal / economic policies of for example the PVV in the Netherlands (the far-right party of Geert Wilders) you will find that those policies are very comparable to left-wing parties.

andreiii|3 years ago

that's what most people in Europe refuse to see. is common for even left-wing Europeans to hate on certain ethnicities, on other nationalities, to be very nationalistic in general.