I wish nextcloud architecture could move to a more stateless version.
It was a huge step forward allowing envars to setup the installation and using a S3 for objects as using it with containers was a PITA.
There are still post installation items that don’t allow to just move the server easily. Instanceid, version and others are still generated in config/config.php. Plugins are another one.
It’s definitely a great product.
I wanted to like Nextcloud, and I made a real effort two different times (hetzner metal servers with attached storage).
Both times it would eventually run into sync problems, where it would just get stuck and refuse to keep things in sync.
I had the same problem with Onedrive (it was worse).
Tresorit was very good and reliable and theoretically very secure, but it was some financial cost.
The last thing I tried is Apple’s 2TB iCloud offering, which is cheap and thus far has not had problems keeping about 1.4TB (around a million files at peak) synced without problems. Of course you must already be living in the Apple ecosystem, but I am and it is convenient.
I do trust Apple to provide reliable and durable service more than I could with my own Nextcloud setup.
This isn't remote. This is the client and server on the same network.
Worse, the client never seems to retry on its own, and stays offline almost indefinitely. I've ended up with multiple sync conflicts because of this.
Even worse, there's no easily accessible button that says "try now." Pausing and resuming sync doesn't work.
On Windows it's the only software I update semi-regularly that insists on rebooting the whole computer, and yes, that includes other software that integrates into File Explorer.
I've also developed a strong dislike of their weird, "pretty", application-window-in-a-drop-down-menu interface. Just have a simple interface that respects the conventions of the host OS's UI, please...
I had that too. It seems to be a problem with the client though. Deleting the local config and reconnecting helped. (Two times in idk ~6 years is still bearable.)
Nextcloud is fantastic. I'm personally running it on a Debian 11 server. I like the web-ui more than for example onedrive or gdrive, and it's not even that hard to setup.
Do you run it at your home or on some VPS? If the latter, and if you don't mind my asking, where do you find affordable storage for your VPS?
The biggest hurdle for me to use Nextcloud is that attaching a large storage to a VPS seems to be quite a bit more expensive than using Google drive, etc. My current VPS is on DigitalOcean, which asks for $100/month for 1TB storage. (To be fair to DO, the storage is SSD, but in this use case, the benefit of SSD is not particularly important)
Google drive and icloud both offer $9.99 for 2TB, and Onedrive offers 6TB for that price I think. That's $0.005/GB and $0.0017/GB respectively. As a comparison, S3 is $0.023/GB.
How do you deal with encryption? Did you encrypted the storage volume, using the Server Side encryption of nextcloud or any other way?
Was just thinking about that and I'm thinking what's the best way to enjoy both security and usability.
same. I've been running NextCloud for years on multiple installations (even on a small RaspberryPi under k8s at home) and it works perfectly.
Recently I read up about OwnCloud's OCIS and I really want to try it out, it sounds like it could scale much better than the PHP behemoth that is NextCloud (where all you can do if you have performance issues is throw more CPU and memory at the VM)
I love Nextcloud, I'm running it for years now on my home server (an old office computer, with extra storage). It basically replaces the Google cloud connectivity on my /e/ OS phone, syncing photos, calendar, contacts, todo. The web UI is nice, I use it to share larger videos sometimes.
[+] [-] clvx|3 years ago|reply
[+] [-] hakre|3 years ago|reply
[+] [-] michaelteter|3 years ago|reply
Both times it would eventually run into sync problems, where it would just get stuck and refuse to keep things in sync.
I had the same problem with Onedrive (it was worse).
Tresorit was very good and reliable and theoretically very secure, but it was some financial cost.
The last thing I tried is Apple’s 2TB iCloud offering, which is cheap and thus far has not had problems keeping about 1.4TB (around a million files at peak) synced without problems. Of course you must already be living in the Apple ecosystem, but I am and it is convenient.
I do trust Apple to provide reliable and durable service more than I could with my own Nextcloud setup.
[+] [-] KennyBlanken|3 years ago|reply
Work your computer from sleep? Server offline!
Moon in the wrong phase? Server offline!
This isn't remote. This is the client and server on the same network.
Worse, the client never seems to retry on its own, and stays offline almost indefinitely. I've ended up with multiple sync conflicts because of this.
Even worse, there's no easily accessible button that says "try now." Pausing and resuming sync doesn't work.
On Windows it's the only software I update semi-regularly that insists on rebooting the whole computer, and yes, that includes other software that integrates into File Explorer.
I've also developed a strong dislike of their weird, "pretty", application-window-in-a-drop-down-menu interface. Just have a simple interface that respects the conventions of the host OS's UI, please...
[+] [-] noAnswer|3 years ago|reply
[+] [-] uselpa|3 years ago|reply
[+] [-] thedriver|3 years ago|reply
[+] [-] powersnail|3 years ago|reply
The biggest hurdle for me to use Nextcloud is that attaching a large storage to a VPS seems to be quite a bit more expensive than using Google drive, etc. My current VPS is on DigitalOcean, which asks for $100/month for 1TB storage. (To be fair to DO, the storage is SSD, but in this use case, the benefit of SSD is not particularly important)
Google drive and icloud both offer $9.99 for 2TB, and Onedrive offers 6TB for that price I think. That's $0.005/GB and $0.0017/GB respectively. As a comparison, S3 is $0.023/GB.
[+] [-] JamesAdir|3 years ago|reply
[+] [-] dark-star|3 years ago|reply
Recently I read up about OwnCloud's OCIS and I really want to try it out, it sounds like it could scale much better than the PHP behemoth that is NextCloud (where all you can do if you have performance issues is throw more CPU and memory at the VM)
[+] [-] npteljes|3 years ago|reply