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pickovven | 3 years ago

It's always been remarkable to me that preppers are more focused on guns and safe houses than working to strengthen civil society.

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unethical_ban|3 years ago

I vote! But seriously, prepping is more than just "without rule of law, SHTF".

Prepping should be iterative based on the likely scenarios in your region/the world. Natural disaster, pandemic, food supply disruptions, gasoline/diesel shortages or embargo, tap water contamination, chemical release, widespread breakdown of civil services (even if temporary).

Fire or earthquake in California. Hurricanes in the east/gulf. Chemical spills via train or in Houston/industrial areas. Bomb cyclones in the north. Water treatment plants/pipes failing (Flint; Jackson MI). Lack of water in AZ.

Stay in decent shape. Have water/water purification on hand. Have emergency rations/canned food available for a week or more for each person in the house. Have backups of all critical digital data on a portable drive. Have a decent medkit. Have a radio that can receive weather bands which are also used for civil service announcements - or even buy several baofengs and use them on the FRS band (against FCC regs, but who cares in a crisis).

Some bug-in supplies, and a bugout bag, are good things to have for a variety of reasons.

pickovven|3 years ago

TBC I'm not talking about voting. I'm talking about strengthening social ties. In a disaster scenario, being engaged in a strong community that looks out for each other is much more likely to be useful than owning guns.

I'd love to see the venn diagram of preppers and something like EMT volunteers.

runjake|3 years ago

I think it is because it is generally viewed as futile, in the grand scheme. That preppers tend not to be social butterflies (me included!) does not help either.

I personally disagree with that view. I think that post-collapse longevity is going to depend on small communities, or tribes, if you will. It behooves the smart prepper to cultivate relationships now and a good way to do that is by doing good for society.

And I'd argue that OpenAI believes it is working to strengthen civil society. I don't know whether I agree with them or not, but I do believe that AI is just at the beginning of changing our society in truly staggering ways that cannot be undone.

I am beginning to wonder if we'll have a "21st Century Amish" where people choose to live in <=2000s technology.

marssaxman|3 years ago

Most people have essentially zero influence on the societies they live in.