[gptgpp]

Come on, give examples please don't leave me hanging! I think the Mafia are sick fucks, but lots of governments have been too. No shortage of violence in this pit of animals on this stupid space rock.

But thousands of times more gruesome than that!? That's wild. I've watched Cartel vids where they slice open and expose the vocal cords laterally as their victims wail, creating otherworldly sounds.

But that's like... MAYBE 0.5x as gruesome as torturing some poor helpless child or tossing infant into a barrel of acid. So if you've got stuff that's 1000x as gruesome, I can't even comprehend! Please post.

[somat]

Take china for example, How many families/people/children were tortured and killed when the japanese invaded manchuria. That is an invasion, you may say, it does not count, ok, Now look at how many more than that were tortured and killed in chairman mao's cultural revolution.

The scale at which modern governments operate makes all of organized crime look like child's play. The quote "A single death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic" Is particularly apt here.

[l33t233372]

I get your point, and I agree.

But, the Mongol government creating mountains of skulls that appear to travelers in the distance to be snow covered mountains with such a trail of human remains that the “grease” renders their horses immobile is pretty darn brutal.

[lordnacho]

Have you seen those pyramids made of human skulls in Cambodia?

I think the scale of the brutality matters a lot, and governments can get bigger scale.